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My name is Moira Deslands, and I'm very lucky.
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And to be sitting up with these three and being able to look at all your
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beautiful places for our session today this afternoon for the Festival of
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Ideas, which is called tipping points per success,
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we're going to have a conversation we've decided we've got some questions for
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our panel.
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I'll introduce them and they can say a little bit about themselves as well in a
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moment. And then we'll have some time for some Q and a too.
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So I'm suggesting that you cuddle up and that's,
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if people want to come a little closer, you're very welcome to as well,
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so that you feel like there is a sort of a community who's gathered together to,
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to listen to our three panelists. And can you please welcome them?
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So we have Max just next to me, he can wave so that everyone knows that's Max,
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Max is passionate about agricultural investment,
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and he's going to be talking to us and showing some of his thoughts around his
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work, in that area and how he's been able to unlock,
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or is planning to help unlock some of the benefits of sustainable production.
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So he's got a background in brilliant in agriculture in the middle.
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We have the lovely Manal Younus.
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Some of you might've been here yesterday to hear her speak,
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or perhaps have had that privilege.
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And another time she's a south Australian based performer and writer and
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creative producer, and she was a finalist and young Australian of the year,
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this year, south Australia this year. And finally,
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but certainly not last week,
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got Daniels Lander Berg here on the very end of he'll give you a wave to he's
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just recently, I think it was on Friday. Was the, was it Saturday,
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the Friday runner up for the Adelaide a zero carbon emission
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competition.
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He's he's described himself as a dreamer and entrepreneur and urban designer and
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photographer but where you probably know him best for the heat for his business,
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eco caddy. So cycles and cycling is a big part of your life too.
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So please enjoy this conversation and think of some
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questions that you can put to the panel when that time comes.
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So I'm going to start and any one of you can answer this question.
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Have you got any advice that you'd like to have given that it might've come from
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your younger years? What would your 15 year old self had said to you?
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Well, I can start I would, I would say that at a,
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at a fifth as a 15 year old,
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probably most important thing you can be doing is learning.
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It doesn't matter what you're learning,
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just learning something because there's a lot of people that don't quite know
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what they want to do at a young age.
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And if you're sitting there just doing the same old processes day in, day out,
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you're not going to discover anything new.
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So you're never going to be able to work out what you,
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what you want to do and what you don't want to do. So to me, absolutely.
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Just learn everything.
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If you wanna get into a career like I would recommend going to university of
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course and study overseas.
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I reckon I did an exchange semester in China for,
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in 2012 for about six months. And,
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and that experience was unreal for me just rocking up to a country where I
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couldn't speak the language and I'm going to a restaurant and just trying to
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work out what the squeal was mentioned,
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literally pointing at other tables of food to try and eat. But yeah,
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that experience was just amazing.
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And not just the fact that I learned how to speak Chinese,
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but it was amazing to learn about the culture and just being thrown in the deep
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end. So I would say that if you go to university,
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why not do your entire degree overseas or at least the exchange semester. So.
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Now have you got a suggestion,
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I mean that you came to Australia to have those experience,
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some of those experiences. Yeah, well, it's.
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When you said that,
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I actually just imagine this conversation between me now and my 15 year old
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self. And I just imagined my 15 year old self being like, what are you doing?
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This was not part of the plan. Because yeah,
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I had a very clear idea of what I wanted to do and that was going to uni and
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pursuing further education and, and everything else.
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But because that is the reason that my dad brought us to Australia. And
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I guess now the fact that it's taken me five years already to do a three-year
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degree is like one of the things that that I guess is just part
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of not going according to plan and that always causes tensions.
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And I guess what I would tell my 15 year old self is that you
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don't have the answers and you can't predict these things,
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and you're going to need to take every opportunity that comes along.
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So you don't need to know things, but you need to keep on having the visions.
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And there are different ways to come to these visions.
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And it's not always going to be through, you know,
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finishing your first degree in three years,
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finishing your next one and two years later,
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and then having your PhD and being a professor and having all the answers,
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you know, cause that was what, what I always wanted. So for now it's just, yeah,
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that's what I would say is just keep the vision in mind, but you don't,
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you're not going to know the answers for a long.
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Time. It's a B be comfortable with being uncomfortable. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
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About you Daniel. So if you've got that kind of wisdom in your 15 year old self.
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I would agree with both Max and Manal and sort of put those two answers together
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and say, learn to listen,
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learn to listen to opportunity because opportunities are constantly
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coming too. And you need to,
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you need to be aware when those opportunities arise and really it's learning how
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to feed your intuition and,
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and learning to listen to your gut which is a real hard thing to do.
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I didn't listen at all as a kid, by the way, it was a bit of a brat.
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So yeah, those, those would be the two bits of advice and yeah, and just,
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yeah, sort of learning how to learning to trust yourself, but you,
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you learn from I think teaching yourself these things along the way
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and having these little wins from taking these opportunities and going right
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and it's really to do with risk. I think you know,
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you sort of you're in these situations, you're like, should I do it?
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Should I not as a kid, you don't, you sort of just do it in you,
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you might make a mistake. And I think as you get older,
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you get a little bit more risk averse. So to my future self,
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I dunno if that's the next question I'd say, I'd say stay, stay naive.
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Because naive, I think has a little bit,
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or even a lot to do with the success of an entrepreneur as well. So.
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So if you did fast forward, you know, and you're in a great hail, I,
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I have well, you know, what do you think your older self,
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your 50, 60, 70 year old self might say to you now?
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Yeah. Keep it real. I think.
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I think so. Just yeah, I think like I'm hoping that,
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I mean the last, the last sort of five, six years,
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I've really grown into myself and that's, that's been a cool process.
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And I think my, my future self I'm hoping that as,
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as I keep learning, you keep starting to,
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I think you start to over rationalize and that night Vivity starts to come down
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a little bit in business anyway. As things get a little bit more serious.
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So it's, you know, I think it's, it's, it's learning feeding that gut,
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but then really also, you know,
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staying a little bit naive because that's where I,
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I think the opportunity for disruption is if you,
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if you're constantly thinking and trying to rationalize things,
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particularly ideas into old ways then
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it won't, it won't work obviously. And that's, yeah,
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that's that thin little lines where disruption happens and I think you need a
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bit of naivety to sort of push through all of that. Yeah.
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So you didn't want to turn into your dad or your grandfather or someone like
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that. I.
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I didn't, I didn't know my grandfather or my real father very well.
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But from what I hear from my mum, they were pretty cool guys. So yeah,
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I mean, I'm hoping that I can, I can do something in my kids,
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which I don't have at the moment can, can look up to that. I suppose.
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That's one of the reasons why I'm doing all this, so.
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Yeah. Fantastic Manila. If you could a view about, you know,
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what might be your 50, 60 year old self might want to tell you right now?
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I can't even imagine what my 50 year old self would want to tell me right now,
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but maybe slowed down because are you going to feel the effects at some point,
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then you're going to crash.
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But I guess what I would say to my 50 year old self was just
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similar to what Daniel's had to say.
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But it would be to,
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there's never going to be a point when you're going to know the answers to
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anything that you want to do.
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And so just kind of keep your mind open and keep on, keep on looking for it.
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Cause I just had this obsession with wanting to know what the next step is and
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what the next direction isn't. I think that as you get older,
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you start thinking like I should be knowing these things by now. And so, yeah,
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I guess I'd say you're never going to know. So.
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That's a good tip.
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You're never going to know in the session previously in here was about aging.
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Well, and one of the key messages was that, you know, from the day we born,
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we started to age.
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And so the lessons that we learn as we go along in life are all, does, you know,
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if we use them well,
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they will be designed to help us become more and more resilient.
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And as we get older, that resilience will keep us strong and ready.
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And do you think your 50 year old self will be able to say you're very
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resilient, max? What do you think you will?
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Yeah, of course. Expanding on, on on what now Daniel said,
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I think that first, if you're looking at 50 year old Warren buffet,
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who's worth $64 billion,
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he made 99% of his wealth after the age of 50 and he made 90% of his wealth
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after the age of 60. And I'll, I'll give you another example,
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Colonel Sanders founded KFC at the age of 66,
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so there's no real limit to when you can actually succeed. And you know,
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you shouldn't stop I suppose. You know, what,
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what you got to do at that age though, is really adapt and embrace technology.
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And Daniel brought that up as well because we're seeing technology evolve so
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rapidly that it's actually becoming obsolete every 18 months. And if you're,
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let's just say your attract driver and you think that your job's safe. Well,
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think again,
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because if you're not learning the technology around autonomous vehicles,
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which are already being rolled out now, you know,
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you're not going to be able to become or continue being relevant.
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it's a matter of challenging old ideas because what's right today could easily
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be wrong tomorrow. You know, for instance,
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we used to think the world was flat until Christopher Columbus came along,
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right? So it's,
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it's about embracing that technology and that change.
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I deal with older farmers and younger farmers on a daily basis.
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it's always painful when there's an older farmer who doesn't want that new piece
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of technology because this is the way it's done.
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This is how I've been doing it for the last three generations or, you know,
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my family. And you know, it's those type of people who've been left behind.
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Whereas you've got the younger generation who want to see what that new
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technology is and apply it to their farm.
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And they're the farms that really succeed. And the other businesses that, that,
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that go above and beyond.
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Yeah, I think they're being left behind yesterday.
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Some of you might've been there for a Barry Jones doing his Don Dunstan
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aeration. And there were two parties.
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He was canvassing the courage party and the left behind party.
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And a lot of people who are in that group will get left behind.
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I'm just going to take a quick straw poll of the audience.
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How many of you have doing a job now or retired from a job
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now that is different to the one that you first had when you left school?
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So for radio Adelaide's sake, that is about a 97.5,
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maybe 99.5 hands up in.
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The audience. I think that's a, that's a great call.
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And going back to the question before,
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about what advice would you give you 15 year old self,
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just get into a job and don't think that you're gonna be doing that job forever.
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Cause I've got a lot of friends who were kind of graduate graduating university
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and they've got no idea what they want to do. And they're saying, well,
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do I want to do that? Do I want to get into that job? And I go, yes,
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just do it because you're not going to be there in 40, 50 years time,
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you're going to be a completely different industry. So yeah, I've.
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Been doing a lot of research on what the future's going to look like in 2050.
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And how many people here in the health industry one way or another.
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So that's about 10 or 15% of the audience, or most of you,
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those jobs that you're currently doing will not exist even in about three to
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five years. So you know, it's, it's a very, quite,
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quite extraordinary how fast change is happening.
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Each of you have had enormous success in one way or another.
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And sometimes, you know, there's success factors,
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but I'm a big believer that there's some kind of X factor to success.
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Something we can't actually name or tick in a box or go to university for,
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or prepare for. Do you know what your X factor might be?
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And a X factor is bloody difficult. You can have an X, Y,
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and Zed factor is your next one. Is it?
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I would say an X would have to be having that right balance of emotional
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question and intellectual question. You know,
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you need book smarts and you need straight smarts you know,
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businesses all about networking,
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but you need the brains as well to get you there. The Y I would say,
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would be being able to sell you gotta be able to sell yourself to set yourself
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up in a career,
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and then you gotta be able to sell products because you can be the best author
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in the world, but if you can't sell your book, it doesn't matter.
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you gotta be able to be a leader and lead from the front. So, you know,
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being a visionary, being a cheerleader and being a people, you know, it's all,
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they're all important.
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Tenacity is with a smile on your face. Yeah, we,
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CA Kevin calm during the open state lectures as well,
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who is from tech ranch in Austin. And he was saying, well,
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one of the factors is you've just gotta be bold and brave and have a huge ego
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and a chip on your shoulder.
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Cause it really helps you keep moving forward when you're a young entrepreneur.
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And he sort of his first work was with Steve jobs as a guy you might've heard
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of. So he, you know, it's just quite an interesting why, Hey,
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put that forward to be, you got an X or a wire, or is it clear now? I would.
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Have to say that yes, definitely.
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I would say vision and passion but also being able to work
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out the practical steps to achieve what that vision is.
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And then the passion would come in to, to be able to have the drive,
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to do all of that. And I come from a very, very different industry.
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so there are still a lot of the same key lessons,
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but I would say more of the kind of being able to, to step back and,
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and lead from the back and kind of create platforms and then make them available
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for, for other people to, to step up onto,
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because it is about community empowerment in the areas that I work in.
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I think that being able to also express that vision and
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allow other people to see it and to see how it can benefit them and how
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working toward it will also be great for them and everybody else around them.
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So yeah, having the vision, passion and being able to sell.
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And what does that look like? Like when, if I was just walking in, what,
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how would I know that about your work? Like what,
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what would be the things I would see?
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I, what do you mean if you were just walking? So.
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it could be 10 people in the spoken word community that I know of,
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what is it that will make you shine out from those because you have that vision
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and passion?
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I think simply what my work is about,
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like when I read poetry or when I perform it it's,
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it's very clear that I really believe the things that I'm saying. And it's,
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it's always stories that have some kind of moral, you know,
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even if it's not necessarily telling you to do anything,
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it's whether it's simply preserving something that's from my ancestry that comes
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out in, or whether it's about empowerment,
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whatever else that that'll be really present in my work.
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of color in a lot of places and especially in the art scene, I mean,
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that's what I can speak about.
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which just has like a, it's a, that's a poetry night,
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by the way that some friends and I started up that one has a lot of diversity,
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but all of the others,
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like I would go up and I would possibly be the only brown person definitely be
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only hijabi person and Muslim person. Who's there.
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when people don't have my don't associate much with, with people of color,
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there's, there's this perception that you know about Muslim women and you know,
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about about African women and immigrants and stuff like that.
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expecting or may or may not have known was coming.
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they can see it because I'm almost a demonstration of that vision of,
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of creating spaces of empowerment and empowering young people. Yeah.
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Young people.
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Of color. Yeah. So what was been invisible becomes visible. Exactly. Yeah.
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Daniels, what is your invisibility super power with your X, Y, and Z factor.
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Visibility otherwise, yeah, I wouldn't be up here on stage. That would be cool,
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but no, I I'd agree with both of these guys. You do need to sell yourself.
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You definitely do need to have a vision. My X-Factor,
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I think has been convincing other people in my vision to
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believe in my vision and to help me build that. So bringing people with you,
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I think is is, is the key to success.
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You can't get there alone.
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But it's probably a lonely path and it's probably a bit harder. So yeah,
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what I realized with my vision with eco Katie is that I needed to have
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people that shared my vision to make this thing actually come to life.
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And so that we could convince the rest of the city that what we're doing is a
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good thing for the city. So they, they themselves had to carry the message,
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which I wanted to put out there, but they needed,
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they need to believe in it as much as I do. So that's selling, you know,
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when you're getting sold something that you don't really want. It's difference.
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There's a difference when you're getting sold something by someone that believes
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in it. I think that believes in its,
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in its truths and in its in its benefits.
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So it also helps if you're doing something good,
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so try and try and do something good. So yeah,
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I suppose the X-Factor was trying to look at the world and see
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how, you know, what, what social innovation could I bring to life.
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I needed to believe in that. So, but yeah. Bringing, bringing people with you.
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So that same question in a way what have you got a special
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secret sauce that helps bring people along with you?
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Just communicating, just sharing, just talking with people all the time.
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One of my one of my writers told me the other day you're doing all this cool
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stuff, man, but I don't, I don't really understand like, what's going on.
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which I hate the selfie camera sort of thing. Like but yeah,
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I've been just literally walking between meetings and I'm like, guys,
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this is what I'm doing. I'm heading into this meeting. I'm scared shitless,
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but you know, if we get this, it's going to be great. And then,
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and then you're walking out and you're sharing a blogging site.
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We just totally smashed that, you know? And it's,
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and you're carrying the team with you,
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like they're right there in the meeting room with you, you know,
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and you're getting all these messages.
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So you have to be an effective communicator all the time to your team and to the
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people that, you know, you're trying to do business with.
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I think that's really key. And that's been a difficult thing. I mean,
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I, yeah, I suppose I wasn't a complete extrovert.
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I was sort of in between the intro and the extra. And I think what I,
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what I needed to do was have that hard conversation with myself and say,
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this is what I need to do. And this is sort of the, it's not really a sacrifice,
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but this is something that I need to sort of, I suppose,
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take myself to the next level.
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One of those is getting out of that comfort zone and talking to people all the
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time, which is yeah, it's, it's, it's getting more and more easy to do,
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I suppose. That's, that's a good thing.
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Next.
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Is there anything you've had to do for yourself to take you to the next level
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and a particular tip for success to actually tip into that
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space?
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Yeah, I, I think well growing ups at a young age,
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it's about just doing things that are outside your comfort zone. It really is.
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And that's, if that means just cold calling a company and saying, you know,
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you want to work there unpack, just, just do it, you know,
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and you might have no idea what you're doing. And, and I was in that position,
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I went and worked at a law firm in Sydney and had no idea about law. Yeah,
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I worked at a bank in Sydney as well,
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and this is when I was kind of like you know, 17, 18. And,
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but all those challenges are really what you need to do because then you,
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you learn each time. And you know,
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the more you learn the fast dealer and it's, it's not,
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it's really not what you know,
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but it's how fast you learn that separates you from the crowd. That's,
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that's what I've learned. It gets, it gets addictive on that.
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When you, when you get out of the comfort zone and you actually have this win
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it's you can almost feel that level up,
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I suppose it takes a couple of extra goes to sort of reinforce it,
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but yeah, it's, yeah, it can be quite, quite a deal.
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So it's a gamification of success.
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You get to the next level.
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Being able to quantify it, but yeah, it's certainly it's it's yeah, it feels,
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it feels good to be able to go in that comfort out of that comfort zone and
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actually yeah. Be successful at it. Yeah. Calculating risks as well. Yeah.
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Calculated risks.
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So what are the factors that you take into account when you're calculating your
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risk? Yeah.
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Well, I mean, what's the potential upside. If there is,
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if the upside is endless, then, then go for it. But if it's something that,
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for instance,
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you leave a job to go for another job and the job's not much better and it's you
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don't see too much benefit from it, then there's not too much point,
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but you know, I,
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I had a cushy job at a big four accounting firm and got offered an internship in
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Singapore and left the cushy big four job at KPMG to move to
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Singapore and and start that job.
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And I could have been out of a job after the internship, but fortunately for me,
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I got the the grad offer after the internship. So yeah, that,
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that was a calculated risk. And I knew that if I, yeah,
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there was that potential to get a foot in the door. So, you know, so I took it.
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Did you want to say something about it calculated risks?
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I actually.
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Want to comment on what was being said before that I think that one thing that,
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that the three of us have in common and I that's part of the whole X-Factor
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thing is that and I'm making this assumption about you guys,
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but what you said already is that we're excited by challenges and risks
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and kind of just that kind of thing. It's like being,
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being asked that more difficult question and that,
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that pushes us to go and to go and find out or to, you know,
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search deeper in our heads about what the, what, what I can say to that.
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And I think that that translates in all the, in the work that we do.
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And then that's why we can constantly push boundaries or try something new and,
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and and not be afraid to take those risks. And yes,
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obviously calculated cause you don't want to make big losses you don't in my
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case if you're bringing the rest of the community with you into a space,
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you don't want to be putting them at risk in any way or,
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you know kind of then making them afraid to ever do that again,
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if it messes up or burning them out or anything like that. So yeah,
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you do need to be very careful with those things,
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but when it comes to to yourself and just pushing that little bit more,
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that that's exciting for me. And I see that you guys as well.
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So I'm going to just do another little audience poll right now.
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Hands up if you've taken a risk with yourself in the last
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three months. So for radio national radio Adelaide,
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they are almost national. That was about 80%. Would you agree? Yeah.
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So those of the 20% who didn't take a risk in the last three months,
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if I asked you that if you took a risk in the last year,
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would your hands have gone up? I think that was a yes.
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So time-wise are you taking risks every day? Every week,
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every month, every year, I'd like to answer that.
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Well, you're not going out of your way to make a risk. You know,
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you you'll take a risk as the opportunity comes and how often do
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opportunities come? I mean, yeah, they might come on a weekly basis.
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They might come on a yearly basis, but yeah, you're not going to say, okay.
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I mean maybe you can,
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maybe you can kind of find ways to improve your life and then bring an
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opportunity to but you know, you're not making a say, oh,
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I haven't taken a risk in six months. I'm going to do something stupid. I think,
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I think though on that, yeah, it's, it's comfort. So if I'm, if I'm comfortable,
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then I know I'm not taking enough risks and you don't really want to be in that
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place if you're trying to grow something. I think you're always, I mean,
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you're trying to mitigate risk all the time in business. So you,
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you sort of assess the situation and try and reduce that risk, but yeah,
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you must take some to move forward. So I haven't been comfortable for a while,
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so that's, I think that's a good thing, but sometimes I yearn it, but that,
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that comes later when hopefully I'm talking to that 50 year old guy a little bit
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later on down the line.
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Okay. So I might stay with you, I'm an alphabet you know, disruption,
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you know,
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that's a lot of what if you just have to walk into a room and you're kind of
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disrupting the status quo and things around giving.
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Poetry, do you want to just say a little bit about.
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What you think you're doing in terms of being like a changemaker and how that's
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disrupting some of the old systems and the ways people are thinking?
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Yeah.
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I think because my kind of focus is
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you know,
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I always say my two favorite ones always meaning like this week in the talks
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I've done this week my two favorite words are representation and ownership and
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that they equal empowerment.
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And my focus is to create that in in any kind of minority
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communities in, in Adelaide or in Australia.
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But for me,
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because I come from the African community and the Muslim community,
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they're the ones that I focused on because that's where my connections are and
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that's where I can have the most impact.
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And I think that the reason for focusing on those
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particular words and those particular ideas is because if we want to see
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the healthy growth of Australia,
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where we no longer have these differences in levels of power,
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based on race or ethnicity or religious background,
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then then there needs to be
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I guess, changed through representation.
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So by occupying these kinds of spaces and, and, you know, coming,
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coming to a panel where, you know,
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I might be the only young woman and going to one where I might be the only
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person of color or or anything else like that already,
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that already makes it eight inviting for a person of color that,
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that might want to come to this. Actually, I'm going to give you an example,
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sorry to cut myself off.
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But this week I spoke at open state and I spoke at the Ted
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conference and both of them,
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I had a moment where I was like about to cry because it was just a reminder of
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the reason that I, I might attend four talks in a week,
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even though like I'm stressed out of my brains because at open state,
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at the end of the, at the end of the session,
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the only girl with a scarf that came that came was just like, you know,
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I came because Manal was speaking and she didn't know who I was.
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It had nothing to do with my personality or anything like that.
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But simply because she saw that there's a Muslim girl,
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that's going to be speaking at this thing.
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And so there might be something that's relevant to her.
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And then at the Ted conference,
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there was an Ethiopian man who came and he he's just like, you know,
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I bought my ticket because I saw you on the, on the front page of the paper.
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And I was like, I want to hear what this girl has got to say again.
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He didn't know me. He didn't even know that I was you know,
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from the same side of the world as of him or anything like that.
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But he simply saw somebody that might be able to relate to him in some way.
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And that has a huge impact for people of color.
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I know that that affects the events that I go to when I see if I see
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representation or not, because then I know if there's been any effort made.
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So I tried to disrupt him that way just to make it more accessible for
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people who are continuously left on the margins because we're always catering
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the mainstream.
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And then the other thing through ownership is by having initiatives that are
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actually started off by people from minority communities.
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So something like Seoul lounge, which, you know,
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we've never marketed it as something for people of color, you know,
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anyone's allowed to come up on the stage,
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but we get like 80% people from really diverse backgrounds.
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Whereas other,
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other arts events don't and that's simply because it's owned and it's grown
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by people from these communities. And then the people that we have on stage,
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like our feature performers,
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the ones that we invite from interstate are actually representative of these
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communities. And so they actually want to come and they want to hear,
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and then they participate and they get up on the open mic.
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People who've been like we only ever started writing since we came to soul
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lounge and it brings out a lot of creativity.
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And so these two things are so important and that's how we're shaking up these
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structures by creating a creating our own things that then
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everybody's welcome to come along to none of it's exclusive,
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but at least we have some feeling of like, okay, actually,
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like we're planning our feet here in some way.
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We're not just being given things where people don't have to shift things to
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accommodate us because that's how we're constantly made to feel.
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Yeah. Great answer. Max.
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You've been disrupting your part of the world and agribusiness what
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what's happening, what are you doing to disrupt them?
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Yeah. but before I get to that specifically,
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I want to just talk a bit about something called exponential growth,
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which you have an interest in as well. I imagine.
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So humans are naturally wired to think of growth in a linear fashion.
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So when, when one thing grows at the same rate,
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so like your hair growing or your nails growing or something like that,
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but what we find hard to comprehend is it is a thing called exponential growth.
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Now exponential growth is when something doubles each time step.
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So I'll give you an example. So let's just say we're in this hole.
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And it's 11 o'clock every minute there's a drop of water, which strips down.
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So it's 11 o'clock, there's 1 11 0 1, there's two drops, 1102 there's,
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four drops and then eight then 16.
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And it doubles until we get to 12 o'clock right. So question,
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if anyone wants to answer it at what time between 11 and 12 or this room be half
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full with water 1159. Correct.
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So it takes 59 minutes to feel half the room and just one minute to fill the
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remaining half.
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Now we're seeing that applied to the human population with technology,
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but in regards to the human population, that's enormous for, for agriculture.
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So that's why it's so important for us.
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So if you think where it's about 7.3 billion people right now,
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and we're forecast to get to 10 billion people by 2050.
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So that's 34 years away.
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Now the first few modern human evolved about 200,000 years ago and
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took us until 1900 to get to 2.7 billion people says
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199,900 years to get to 2.7 billion people.
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Whereas the next 2.7 billion peoples only going to take 34 years. So that,
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that means that in agriculture,
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we're going to have to actually double our production of food in order to feed
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this growing population. So in Australia alone,
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what needs to be done by,
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but by 2050 is we're going to actually have to invest about a trillion dollars
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in agriculture. So that works,
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works out to be about $30 billion on an annual basis.
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At the moment we're investing collectively about $16 billion on an annual basis.
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So we nearly need to double our investment in agriculture in order to,
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to meet the production requirements for the dining boom,
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which you may have heard of now what are we investing in and what are we
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disrupting as well? It comes down to technology.
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So if you look at all the technology coming out there and you would have heard
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of these things, so the internet of things,
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which is converging with existing technology.
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So that's the interconnectivity of devices that is going to have a huge
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impact in agriculture. So we're seeing, yeah,
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you might have internet of things impact your life by an alarm waking up in the
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morning and all of a sudden your coffee machine downstairs that's brewing the
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coffee. Okay. But what about a farmer who, when he wakes up in the morning,
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he's, he's drawing starts firing up, you know, that type of stuff is,
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is the internet of things, and we're seeing big data,
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artificial intelligence and,
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and we're investing specifically in in precision ag and drone technology.
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And you know,
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if you've got a farmer sitting on a front porch and he's harvesting his paddock
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on his iPad, you know,
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those types of things is what's required for us to meet these production
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requirements. So, I mean, for us, it's,
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it's all about technology. And I think that you know,
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the theme around the youth for this talk is important too,
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because you need to going to the advice,
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go back to that advice to my 50 year old. So you need to grab this technology.
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And because you've got the youth who naturally want this new technology, you've,
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you've got kids outside comparing our phones and should they get the Google
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people's pixel? Should they get the Samsung edge or the iPhone seven,
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they naturally want to get that new piece of technology. And they want that.
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Whereas the older generation, not so much, I mean, my grandparents,
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they've got a phone for like three, four,
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five years ago when technology becomes obsolete after 18 months,
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they're going to get left behind. So yeah, F for us,
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it's about investing in technology and educating, not just the younger farmers,
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but the older farmers that this technology is actually required because if we
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don't, then we're going to be pretty hungry in 2015. Hm.
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And the disruption around sustainability and environment.
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Yeah. We're.
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Just trying to make sustainability. Cool. I suppose,
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that's and bring it to the forefront. That's what eco Katie's trying to do.
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Making it accessible and palatable.
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And the way that we're doing that is basically just normalizing. What has,
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well, it's been, it's been a novelty really, which is taking, it, took,
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took across the city. You know,
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it's a 200 year idea and we've just bolted on some great
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technology to sort of to augment it, to make it more accessible,
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to to better utilize the asset so that we can put supply in
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in contact with demand and our writers can be as comfortable as possible.
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That's the idea it's, it's, you know, it's,
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it's very w we're in the same sort of disruption that Uber is trying to
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do, except we're, we're doing it in a complimentary way.
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So we're trying to compliment the existing systems of the city and,
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and trying to solve the last mile gap or the last mile problem,
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which is prevalent in every single city.
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And the way that we're doing that at the moment is by using a petty cab,
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which is a bamboo bodied tricycle it's electric assisted,
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it's the most advanced of its type in the world. And we took that.
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And the reason I picked that particular truck is that it's a good looking thing.
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It's a, it's a well-designed bike,
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just like Ikea has changed the way that we look at designed objects.
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And I think it's lifted designing in, in, in,
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in the modern cities or in in the developed, in the developed world,
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similar eco Katie's trying to do that as well as trying to make cycling
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and in and,
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and and ecological businesses look,
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look good and be like, I want to invest in that, or I want to,
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I want to use that product. I want to use that service. So, yeah, that's,
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that's where our disruption is. Yeah.
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And this is what, you know, that famous quote that youth is wasted on the young.
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Have you experienced much ages in your endeavors, any of you.
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Katie? We use we get used by, by everyone particularly the elderly.
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They love us because we can, we can make them more mobile.
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Essentially they jump in the back and they get to experience the world on a
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cycle, but they don't have to exert any, any effort at all. And interestingly,
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when we've canvas them, we've, we've asked, you know,
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why do you use our service? And it's you don't realize how small their,
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their footprint is. They get, we,
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we I asked a six year old couple the other day and they they had,
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they hadn't gone down Rundle street in 30 years.
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And the reason for that is because they had I think one had a hip replacement
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and the other one had foot surgery like the older than 60, sorry.
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But they hadn't then actually walked down there cause they just, they couldn't,
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they couldn't access it. They all,
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they can afford us to catch the tram in or catch the train maybe once or twice a
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week.
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And they would walk as far as they could until they they experienced pain and
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then they would get back.
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So we actually got them in the back of the eco catty and they,
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they got to go around the city and see,
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see the city that they hadn't seen for 30 years, which was amazing. So yeah,
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it's great to have you know, the elderly on board,
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but we're also very popular and Friday and Saturday nights. Yeah,
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it's pretty good. I'm, I'm actually the oldest in the team at 30 31.
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And then we had the youngest, which is about 19. We are I think in,
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in most modern cities and most modern countries is an aging
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population and keeping the young in the city,
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particularly in Adelaide with the brain drain and everything everything else
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shifting over to the east coast. I think it's important to give you know,
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the youth,
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a platform put them right out in front and make them interact with the city.
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It's a, it's a shame. The skate park got taken away and sort of shifted to the,
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you know, into the outskirts of the city.
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I think it's really important to bring that youth back in and,
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and have that mix. That's,
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what's so great about the universities when they're on. So.
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Yeah, yeah. Either beat, you had an experience with ageism, you know,
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Richard at you because of what are you doing here? You were so young. I.
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Know, actually, I usually that works to my benefit.
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Often people assume I'm a little bit older than I am as well. So I don't know.
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Maybe that's ageism just like young people can't be like this. I don't know.
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But yeah, no, I think it's been a good thing. Cause again, like I said,
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it's kind of an embodiment of my vision.
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So when people do see somebody speaking for themselves, who's young.
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Like I think we feel that when we see anybody who's young and empowered and
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everything that you're kind of just like, Hey, like, you know,
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I want to know what's up. I want to know your story. So yeah,
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I think it's it's bonus and official. Yeah.
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Maximum that you, have you ever experienced that?
685
00:39:59.610 --> 00:40:02.040
Oh, well, I mean, I've got some, some,
686
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.510
some very good mentors and obviously my company as well. I've, I've got a very,
687
00:40:06.540 --> 00:40:11.430
very well-respected boss who is very hands-on as well. So he's all about,
688
00:40:11.431 --> 00:40:16.320
he's providing a lot of experience and directing me he's he's kind of
689
00:40:16.321 --> 00:40:19.380
putting the ideas in my head and then just letting me kind of execute it.
690
00:40:19.740 --> 00:40:23.550
So yeah, I mean, I'm doing a fair bit at a young age,
691
00:40:23.580 --> 00:40:26.700
but yeah, it's, there's a lot of guidance along the way.
692
00:40:27.120 --> 00:40:29.880
That's great. This is a chance for some questions,
693
00:40:30.030 --> 00:40:34.200
cause I've been hogging all the questions and I'm sure there's a few out there
694
00:40:34.201 --> 00:40:37.860
in the audience. Has anyone wanted to make their way to the microphone?
695
00:40:38.940 --> 00:40:40.860
It'd be great to hear a question.
696
00:40:41.430 --> 00:40:43.950
And if you wouldn't mind just introducing yourself,
697
00:40:43.951 --> 00:40:48.750
say hello and give us your name because it's always nice for people in
698
00:40:48.751 --> 00:40:50.640
radio land to know who you are too.
699
00:40:51.690 --> 00:40:54.210
Well, hello everyone. My name is Josiah.
700
00:40:55.111 --> 00:40:59.430
You mentioned just mentor ship just before.
701
00:40:59.970 --> 00:41:02.430
My question is someone like myself,
702
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.210
who's grown up without a father and has enormously large family.
703
00:41:06.230 --> 00:41:08.220
So my mum can't really help out too much.
704
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:11.610
I've had to work out a lot of stuff throughout life myself.
705
00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:16.890
And I read an article about mentorship and they said the trick of a mentor is to
706
00:41:16.891 --> 00:41:20.010
never ask them to be your mentor. Like it's sort of good to grow naturally.
707
00:41:20.370 --> 00:41:21.480
And I,
708
00:41:21.481 --> 00:41:26.220
I'm just wondering how have you guys gone about seeking a mentor in a
709
00:41:26.221 --> 00:41:27.120
inappropriate way.
710
00:41:27.121 --> 00:41:31.530
That's helped you to sort of guide you throughout your working
711
00:41:31.531 --> 00:41:32.364
careers?
712
00:41:33.020 --> 00:41:34.490
Say that it's something about, you know,
713
00:41:34.670 --> 00:41:38.930
cause you were saying before not having some of those adult male role models in
714
00:41:38.931 --> 00:41:40.310
your own family. Yeah.
715
00:41:40.390 --> 00:41:43.270
It's yeah. It's, it's interesting. I, yeah, I didn't know my dad,
716
00:41:43.330 --> 00:41:47.350
I had a good stepfather, but then my parents got divorced when I was 17.
717
00:41:47.380 --> 00:41:52.240
So sort of right in my you know, my my aging or my growing years,
718
00:41:52.241 --> 00:41:54.040
I suppose he stepped out.
719
00:41:54.940 --> 00:41:59.830
But I had mentors all around me and I suppose they came early from my my mate's
720
00:41:59.831 --> 00:42:01.360
dads. And they,
721
00:42:01.540 --> 00:42:05.260
they were the first ones that sort of gave me a little bit of guidance.
722
00:42:05.950 --> 00:42:06.370
You know,
723
00:42:06.370 --> 00:42:10.780
it might've been a book or just a sentence and talking about what I was
724
00:42:11.560 --> 00:42:15.610
speaking about before I sort of started to pick up at 17 and 18 that these
725
00:42:15.611 --> 00:42:19.840
opportunities were were being given to me. So this book, you know,
726
00:42:19.841 --> 00:42:22.330
what is this book? It was about property investment.
727
00:42:22.510 --> 00:42:25.900
That one of my mate's dads gave me I think it was,
728
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.420
it was a book by Robert Kiyosaki. Who's Donald Trump's best mate, but he's he's
729
00:42:35.210 --> 00:42:37.930
[inaudible] Yeah, he was a pretty interesting guy. And anyway,
730
00:42:37.931 --> 00:42:39.910
that got me interested in property.
731
00:42:40.600 --> 00:42:43.270
And my mom's my mom's an artist.
732
00:42:43.570 --> 00:42:47.980
So one thing that I always wanted was to be self-sufficient and financially
733
00:42:47.981 --> 00:42:52.090
sustainable, and I thought property was the vehicle that would get me to that.
734
00:42:52.420 --> 00:42:56.260
But what it actually did was it got me into a property investment course.
735
00:42:56.590 --> 00:42:59.770
And then that the, the professor there,
736
00:42:59.860 --> 00:43:03.820
I was doing urban planning and then I got into urban planning and studied at uni
737
00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:08.860
say then did urban design at Melbourne. And then came back here. I started,
738
00:43:08.861 --> 00:43:12.850
went to China and was in China for three years.
739
00:43:13.090 --> 00:43:17.130
And that's what got me involved in bikes. So that one little idea, or that,
740
00:43:17.131 --> 00:43:22.090
that book which was handed to me became a thing that sort of paid my whole
741
00:43:22.091 --> 00:43:25.870
career and got me to, I suppose, where I am now with eco catty.
742
00:43:25.871 --> 00:43:27.430
But yeah,
743
00:43:27.431 --> 00:43:30.880
I haven't actually had a formal mentor at all.
744
00:43:33.550 --> 00:43:38.440
I think answering question a good way to go about it is to reach out to someone
745
00:43:38.500 --> 00:43:41.140
who you think would be a role model or you aspire to,
746
00:43:41.410 --> 00:43:43.870
and just ask for a catch up because yeah,
747
00:43:43.890 --> 00:43:47.180
they should give you the decency to just catch up for a coffee. And,
748
00:43:47.181 --> 00:43:50.980
and that's what I've done. And yeah, I mean, I get, in fact,
749
00:43:50.981 --> 00:43:54.970
I get a fair few LinkedIn messages from people who are still say studying
750
00:43:54.971 --> 00:43:57.520
finance, and they just, they want to catch up and talk about how they,
751
00:43:57.550 --> 00:43:59.920
how I got into my industry and, and how they can,
752
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.570
and having an effective mentor is about the mentor and the mentor re actually
753
00:44:04.990 --> 00:44:06.010
getting along.
754
00:44:06.310 --> 00:44:10.330
And so if you catch up for coffee and then all of a sudden there's that
755
00:44:10.331 --> 00:44:11.164
connection,
756
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:15.400
then you don't have to specifically ask if they want to be a mentor.
757
00:44:15.401 --> 00:44:16.270
It's it's about, well,
758
00:44:16.300 --> 00:44:19.810
you're getting along now and then they'll be willing to catch up for another
759
00:44:19.811 --> 00:44:22.120
coffee and then another coffee after that or whatever.
760
00:44:22.621 --> 00:44:27.340
And then before you realize you're naturally moved into that mentor relationship.
761
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:32.160
[Inaudible] what about Yuma now have had a, had,
762
00:44:32.220 --> 00:44:35.010
you've probably been mentoring other people as well.
763
00:44:36.020 --> 00:44:39.680
Informally. I guess I'm pretty a lot like you,
764
00:44:39.980 --> 00:44:44.570
so in terms of just having kind of informal relationships with people but I
765
00:44:44.571 --> 00:44:48.620
think that based on what you're asking and where they are in their career and
766
00:44:48.621 --> 00:44:49.251
where you are, like,
767
00:44:49.251 --> 00:44:54.080
it's very clear it's almost like an unset agreement that just
768
00:44:54.081 --> 00:44:58.130
kind of evolves naturally where they know that they are able to assist you in
769
00:44:58.131 --> 00:45:02.180
some way. And they know that you're their go to person one time.
770
00:45:02.181 --> 00:45:05.720
I remember a friend of mine was trying to get me an official mentor,
771
00:45:05.721 --> 00:45:08.810
like a few years ago. It did not work out. It was just weird.
772
00:45:09.141 --> 00:45:13.940
It ended up being a very structured thing and it wasn't working for me. So yeah,
773
00:45:13.941 --> 00:45:18.530
I think that just developing very natural relationship with somebody,
774
00:45:18.531 --> 00:45:21.260
who's kind of doing some of the things that you want and don't be afraid to have
775
00:45:21.740 --> 00:45:25.190
more than one. Like it's not like a, you know, a monogamous relationship.
776
00:45:25.220 --> 00:45:28.490
You can just Jordan's curation from anybody and have those conversations from
777
00:45:28.491 --> 00:45:31.520
anybody and they can cater to many different aspects of whatever it is that you
778
00:45:31.521 --> 00:45:33.290
want to do or whoever you want to be.
779
00:45:33.860 --> 00:45:38.080
I feel like I might start a business flirtatious mentors or something like that.
780
00:45:38.690 --> 00:45:41.780
Sounds very good. Thanks for your question.
781
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.090
And there's another one on its way by the look of it.
782
00:45:44.270 --> 00:45:46.670
Would you mind just saying your name as well, please?
783
00:45:47.120 --> 00:45:50.780
Okay. Hi guys. My name's David. So I work in tech,
784
00:45:50.810 --> 00:45:52.790
but I guess my question is generally across.
785
00:45:53.750 --> 00:45:57.400
I feel Adelaide's probably quite well poised to deal with, as you mentioned,
786
00:45:57.401 --> 00:46:01.220
disruption, and I guess especially young people,
787
00:46:01.221 --> 00:46:05.000
but I guess I wanted your thoughts on how you think Adelaide is doing at the
788
00:46:05.001 --> 00:46:07.070
moment dealing with that and moving into, I guess,
789
00:46:07.071 --> 00:46:10.970
a different kind of economy perhaps, and where you think it will go from now.
790
00:46:11.720 --> 00:46:14.840
It's a great question. I'm going to just frame it up a little weeny bit.
791
00:46:15.860 --> 00:46:19.880
If you had to give Adelaide a score out of 10,
792
00:46:20.390 --> 00:46:23.360
how would you score? I mean, I'm going to ask a couple of questions.
793
00:46:23.600 --> 00:46:28.540
How would you score us on supporting a young entrepreneurs
794
00:46:28.670 --> 00:46:32.570
and just a score E I'd give it a 6.5,
795
00:46:32.700 --> 00:46:37.490
6.5. I have no comment. So as a no comment.
796
00:46:39.141 --> 00:46:41.240
Yeah, I'd say it's around a five or a six.
797
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:47.480
Okay. So I'm going to see if in a 2018, how,
798
00:46:47.481 --> 00:46:49.520
what score might you give Adelaide?
799
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:54.020
Well with the current trends with universities taking up entrepreneurial
800
00:46:54.021 --> 00:46:57.620
programs with the state government and the Adelaide city council recognizing the
801
00:46:57.621 --> 00:47:02.360
importance of entrepreneurs and that way of thinking as in innovation from
802
00:47:03.380 --> 00:47:08.090
not just from young, but young, young people with young ideas.
803
00:47:08.120 --> 00:47:11.780
So you could, you could be a, you know, a 50 or a 60 year old person with a,
804
00:47:11.810 --> 00:47:16.640
with a young idea that hasn't been tested them actually now creating the support
805
00:47:16.641 --> 00:47:20.930
systems for that is, is being addressed, which is great.
806
00:47:21.030 --> 00:47:24.830
And the fact that Adelaide is looking beyond for, for answers.
807
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.850
Building of the CA at some scaffolding around that to build the,
808
00:47:29.470 --> 00:47:30.303
to help that happen.
809
00:47:30.670 --> 00:47:33.790
And that's, and that's, what's needed, you know, it's, it's the support system.
810
00:47:33.940 --> 00:47:34.590
Yeah.
811
00:47:34.590 --> 00:47:37.680
Is there any one or two things you think they're doing really well in that
812
00:47:37.681 --> 00:47:38.850
space? That's helping.
813
00:47:39.330 --> 00:47:40.770
We're talking about a lot, which is good.
814
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:43.950
I think this is the point. There's a lot of talk.
815
00:47:44.580 --> 00:47:45.840
That's kind of what I was getting. Yeah.
816
00:47:45.870 --> 00:47:49.050
So any hints or advice that you want to give,
817
00:47:49.051 --> 00:47:53.490
should there be someone in the audience today who could make the talk in terms
818
00:47:53.491 --> 00:47:56.070
of talking to action? What would you suggest? Don't wait for.
819
00:47:56.070 --> 00:48:00.090
It, then wife fad, light to catch up, go somewhere else and then come back.
820
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:03.600
Cause that's, that's what I did. And I think, yeah, so,
821
00:48:03.660 --> 00:48:06.240
so did you max but come back,
822
00:48:06.270 --> 00:48:09.960
that's the important thing you need to, you need to go to,
823
00:48:09.990 --> 00:48:14.400
you need to experience the world anyway because every place is completely
824
00:48:14.401 --> 00:48:17.850
different and the people in those places are wired completely differently.
825
00:48:18.210 --> 00:48:21.930
So the more you can understand and the more you can empathize with these other
826
00:48:21.931 --> 00:48:23.730
ways of thinking will help you.
827
00:48:23.780 --> 00:48:27.930
You got to build this toolkit of experience and you can't do that in one place.
828
00:48:28.650 --> 00:48:31.890
So when you're young or if you, you know,
829
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:34.590
people go through sort of waves where they're,
830
00:48:34.770 --> 00:48:37.620
they have less liabilities or less responsibilities, you know,
831
00:48:37.621 --> 00:48:40.620
you might've broken up out of a relationship. You might've sold a house,
832
00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:44.250
take that as an opportunity to say, right. I don't have these anchors.
833
00:48:44.520 --> 00:48:47.910
I'm going to get out of here and I'm going to learn. I'm going to, you know,
834
00:48:47.911 --> 00:48:51.540
I'm going to experience something differently. And then yeah. And then bring,
835
00:48:51.541 --> 00:48:53.100
bring that back because Adelaide,
836
00:48:53.101 --> 00:48:57.570
I think has all the right conditions to be a great city to, to grow an idea.
837
00:48:58.380 --> 00:49:02.100
And those support systems are growing, like luck was saying, so, yeah,
838
00:49:02.130 --> 00:49:02.963
but don't wait.
839
00:49:03.150 --> 00:49:05.820
Don't wait. We'd be going to hit further advice either of your time.
840
00:49:06.390 --> 00:49:06.630
Yeah,
841
00:49:06.630 --> 00:49:11.520
I think it's good that it's being recognized that obviously
842
00:49:11.580 --> 00:49:16.410
there is that potential for fostering entrepreneurs and ensuring that, you know,
843
00:49:16.411 --> 00:49:17.880
we can provide for them.
844
00:49:19.080 --> 00:49:21.510
So that's step one is that we're recognized it.
845
00:49:21.511 --> 00:49:22.980
Step two is actually implementing it.
846
00:49:23.910 --> 00:49:26.580
I gave it a 6.5 because of that recognition.
847
00:49:26.640 --> 00:49:31.380
And I think potentially could go up to two, a distinction, a 7.5 by 2018.
848
00:49:32.250 --> 00:49:34.140
I'd rank it based on the university scout
849
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.500
and I had markers.
850
00:49:39.020 --> 00:49:43.500
And so I think there's that potential Adelaide as a city is
851
00:49:43.501 --> 00:49:45.570
lacking in a lot of ways.
852
00:49:45.870 --> 00:49:50.310
It's by no means a finance hub by no means a hub in many aspects of business.
853
00:49:50.550 --> 00:49:53.100
But then if you look at technology and entrepreneurship,
854
00:49:53.220 --> 00:49:54.960
there is no real hub in Australia for that.
855
00:49:54.961 --> 00:49:59.820
So I think there's a massive opportunity for Adelaide to grab that
856
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:03.390
and then be the technology be that entrepreneur hub for,
857
00:50:03.490 --> 00:50:07.950
for Australia and, you know, I've, I've spoken to some politicians and some,
858
00:50:07.951 --> 00:50:12.750
some business people who have recognized that. And yeah,
859
00:50:12.810 --> 00:50:16.200
I mean, there's, I'm not an entrepreneur. So I mean, I, I mean,
860
00:50:16.201 --> 00:50:20.640
I know there's grants given out and, and all that type of thing, but yeah,
861
00:50:20.670 --> 00:50:24.120
if they could do, if they could act on what they recognizing then yeah.
862
00:50:24.150 --> 00:50:25.860
Hopefully there's some change by 2018.
863
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:29.720
And the Adelaide, an arts and ideas hub.
864
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:31.460
How are we going there?
865
00:50:33.290 --> 00:50:36.200
I think, again, it is growing. It's not necessarily a hub,
866
00:50:36.230 --> 00:50:39.650
but I think that the 2.2 points that I want for me to be,
867
00:50:39.651 --> 00:50:44.350
that I picked up was about not waiting and then also
868
00:50:44.370 --> 00:50:47.960
opportunity like if we are going. So for me,
869
00:50:47.961 --> 00:50:50.870
I often travel interstate and each time that I go overseas,
870
00:50:50.900 --> 00:50:54.680
challenges me further and brings ideas that I can then implement.
871
00:50:54.681 --> 00:50:55.970
And then I'm re empowered as well,
872
00:50:55.971 --> 00:51:00.200
because often it feels like kind of lonely doing the this kind of thing.
873
00:51:01.610 --> 00:51:05.480
But as soon as you kind of bring in these ideas and you show that there's a
874
00:51:05.481 --> 00:51:08.990
need, you start running and you show that there, then you need support,
875
00:51:09.260 --> 00:51:11.270
then that's when it will come.
876
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:14.030
And then also any time that you don't see something happening that you think
877
00:51:14.031 --> 00:51:14.571
should be happening,
878
00:51:14.571 --> 00:51:18.380
that's an opportunity for you to do it and to do something amazing.
879
00:51:18.381 --> 00:51:21.170
So I just wanted to reiterate those two points.
880
00:51:21.260 --> 00:51:24.410
It's kind of a, just do it moment, right. Thank you.
881
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:29.240
Is there another question out there? Thank you. You just say your name too,
882
00:51:29.241 --> 00:51:31.910
please. This will be our last question.
883
00:51:33.070 --> 00:51:33.970
Hi, I'm Dave.
884
00:51:35.230 --> 00:51:39.100
I can resonate with a re Robert Kiyosaki book because I actually read it through
885
00:51:39.101 --> 00:51:42.550
and some of the stuff in it was very competitive capitalist.
886
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:48.250
I thought in terms of the way that housing in the U S is on sold
887
00:51:48.251 --> 00:51:51.100
after people go bed lead bankrupt, but that said
888
00:51:52.870 --> 00:51:55.450
who might be one of your heroes and why?
889
00:51:56.050 --> 00:51:59.020
Okay, great question. Who would like to start with that one?
890
00:51:59.590 --> 00:52:03.290
You can have a hero or a shoe. Yeah, sure. I never, yeah.
891
00:52:05.140 --> 00:52:05.973
Yeah.
892
00:52:06.310 --> 00:52:06.880
Funnily enough,
893
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:10.120
I never really had a hero until recently and that would have to be Elon Musk
894
00:52:10.240 --> 00:52:14.410
he's he is a source of inspiration,
895
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:19.180
I think for humanity. And he's also happens to be in the transport space,
896
00:52:19.181 --> 00:52:20.890
which is where I am, which is really cool.
897
00:52:21.190 --> 00:52:25.540
So to see him disrupting in a way that is
898
00:52:25.541 --> 00:52:29.800
inspiring entire industries is really cool, you know,
899
00:52:30.130 --> 00:52:32.920
starting a space program just to inspire the world
900
00:52:34.750 --> 00:52:38.440
on math or yeah, they, yeah, they might need some rovers. So yeah,
901
00:52:38.640 --> 00:52:41.800
we always joke that we would make some Hobbit trucks, so yeah, it might.
902
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:45.640
Have to call up a loan. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah. What about.
903
00:52:45.640 --> 00:52:49.360
The other two? Who is your hero as she wrote? I.
904
00:52:49.780 --> 00:52:54.510
Don't really have heroes or sheroes here or
905
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:56.140
genders, gender neutral. I would say.
906
00:52:58.330 --> 00:53:02.530
I think it comes down to the whole just like constantly be opening,
907
00:53:02.560 --> 00:53:06.820
open to learning from everybody. And I think that throughout history,
908
00:53:06.821 --> 00:53:10.780
I've seen people kind of doing the disruptive work that that I'm doing.
909
00:53:11.050 --> 00:53:15.760
And I've just kind of read up about as many of them as I can.
910
00:53:15.761 --> 00:53:19.420
And then they kind of lead me to another person and then I find them and I'm
911
00:53:19.421 --> 00:53:21.460
like, oh, they're amazing. They want them to be my hero,
912
00:53:21.461 --> 00:53:25.170
but I never quite settle it. So it can range from, you know,
913
00:53:25.171 --> 00:53:29.940
historical figures to a producer in Melbourne
914
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that had pretty much, like I feel has paved the way and is one of my mentors.
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So I wouldn't say that I have a hero just drawing inspiration and power from
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everywhere and everyone. Yeah. Thank you.
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A hundred percent agree with that,
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but I'm also gonna answer the question a bit differently. A quote from Matthew,
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McConney my heroes me 10 years from now,
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and then in 10 years, your heroes, 10 years from then. And I think that's,
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that's that resonates a lot with me because if you picture yourself 10 years
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from now, you, if you've got ambition, you think possibilities are endless,
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right?
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So every 10 years you're going to keep striving for that next 10 years and that
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next goal. And I, to be honest, that's how I frame my, my,
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my hero. It's it's it's may 10 years from now.
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Well, on that note can we give these wonderful crew of B the ground.
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