WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.360 Good morning everyone and welcome. My name is Naomi Setu. I work in the Department of Premier 2 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:09.340 and Cabinet in South Australian Government. Welcome here this morning to the Adelaide 3 00:00:09.340 --> 00:00:13.120 Festival Ideas on this absolutely beautiful Adelaide morning. A little bit cold but 4 00:00:13.120 --> 00:00:19.120 beautiful anyway. Today's session is the Civic City in a Nomadic World presented by Charles Landry. 5 00:00:19.560 --> 00:00:25.660 I'd like to introduce Charles Landry. Charles is an international authority author, speaker and 6 00:00:25.660 --> 00:00:31.520 advisor on the use of imagination and creativity in urban change. His latest book is The Civic 7 00:00:31.520 --> 00:00:37.580 City in a Nomadic World, a topic he will speak more about today. Charles is currently a fellow 8 00:00:37.580 --> 00:00:43.340 at the Robert Bosch Academy in Berlin. In the late 1980s he invented the concept of the creative city, 9 00:00:43.980 --> 00:00:49.580 how cities can create conditions for people and organisations to think, plan and act with 10 00:00:49.580 --> 00:00:54.840 imagination to solve problems and develop opportunities. The notion's become a global 11 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:55.640 movement. 12 00:00:55.660 --> 00:01:00.140 And changed the way many cities think about their capability and resources. And I know that 13 00:01:00.140 --> 00:01:05.820 Adelaide in particular has been significantly influenced by Charles's work. Now I'd like to 14 00:01:05.820 --> 00:01:06.520 hand over to Charles. 15 00:01:11.220 --> 00:01:17.880 Whoops, thanks a lot. Great to see you. Quite a few of you I know. That's embarrassing actually. 16 00:01:18.780 --> 00:01:24.500 Anyway, perhaps it's not embarrassing. There we are. What's the future? I love this phrase by 17 00:01:24.500 --> 00:01:25.640 Patrick Geddes. 18 00:01:25.660 --> 00:01:52.040 Yeah, I just wanted to say just this just this just this just 19 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:55.740 And as we know, it's sort of so immersive that you can hardly get out. 20 00:01:55.780 --> 00:01:58.300 Well, we just talked about mobile phones a minute ago. 21 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:07.040 And this I just picked off the net is Manchester City football players in the break, not thinking about the next half of the match. 22 00:02:07.720 --> 00:02:13.000 And, you know, everywhere you go, we're all immersed in these other worlds. 23 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:21.660 And I was just interested to see this image in front of Dublin Library, which says we're spending more time in our virtual worlds than outside. 24 00:02:22.040 --> 00:02:28.400 So that is one bit of being nomadic. We're moving from one world into another. 25 00:02:28.660 --> 00:02:33.920 And, of course, that affects how the city feels and what its atmosphere is like. 26 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:41.420 And one of the things is that everything is going, I was about to say, schneller, which is just quicker in German, is going quicker. 27 00:02:41.980 --> 00:02:49.540 People are eating faster. They're walking faster. I think Singapore is the fastest walking place and so on. 28 00:02:49.720 --> 00:02:51.960 And I just saw these guys. 29 00:02:52.040 --> 00:02:55.400 I saw these guys in southern Italy and I thought, what the hell do they think about all of this? 30 00:02:55.780 --> 00:02:59.380 Do they think this is all wonderful or do they think Christ almighty? 31 00:02:59.980 --> 00:03:09.400 And indeed, that question of the young and the old, you know, the digital natives, the immigrants and so on is an interesting potential tension. 32 00:03:10.600 --> 00:03:16.900 But one of the big things it's doing, as you all know, it's reconfiguring space, place and time. 33 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:20.780 Now, you just say these words and it just looks very short words. 34 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:22.020 Actually, that's. 35 00:03:22.040 --> 00:03:26.940 So bloody dramatic reconfiguring place, space and time. 36 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:31.000 And the way that works is actually quite interesting. 37 00:03:31.140 --> 00:03:38.000 There's obviously all this smart city stuff and that's basic infrastructure that we all have to do, sensorize the city. 38 00:03:38.200 --> 00:03:44.700 And we suddenly know how to get from A to B and find the Bradley Forum on the fifth floor. 39 00:03:44.880 --> 00:03:47.280 That sort of problem or not problem. 40 00:03:47.580 --> 00:03:51.320 And of course, you should rarely use the word paradigm shift. 41 00:03:51.420 --> 00:03:52.020 But in a way, it's a problem. 42 00:03:52.040 --> 00:03:56.460 In a way, this is because it means just looking at the world in a different way. 43 00:03:56.980 --> 00:04:02.020 And of course, there are delights, but there are also discontents in all of this movement. 44 00:04:02.220 --> 00:04:04.060 Some of it's very paradoxical. 45 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.080 Some of it is incredibly brilliant. 46 00:04:07.660 --> 00:04:11.540 Obviously, we all want to know when the trains are coming, whether they're on time. 47 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:20.060 One of the problems, though, is there's a number called Dunbar's number, which says you can only cope with about 150 people knowing them. 48 00:04:20.460 --> 00:04:21.520 Well, I bet. 49 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:29.420 I mean, you probably know 50,000 people in this room or not, either through your social media networks and so on. 50 00:04:29.580 --> 00:04:32.860 And that, of course, can be very fragmenting and overwhelming. 51 00:04:33.580 --> 00:04:44.080 And so really, the big question is, what's the fixed, the civic, when everything is fluid and flexible and moving, when we're sort of here and there simultaneously? 52 00:04:45.580 --> 00:04:47.780 It does something to your brain. 53 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:48.700 Perhaps it's good. 54 00:04:48.760 --> 00:04:49.240 I'm not sure. 55 00:04:49.460 --> 00:04:51.620 But one of the things we all know is. 56 00:04:52.040 --> 00:05:00.040 As Darren Sharp said yesterday, we've got the second enclosure where the big Googles and all of that are sucking you in. 57 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:02.780 And obviously, some of it we like. 58 00:05:02.900 --> 00:05:05.360 But I didn't go on this Google train, by the way. 59 00:05:05.380 --> 00:05:06.480 It's at the Sydney Biennale. 60 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:08.380 I was too frightened to go into that tunnel. 61 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:16.300 But in the end, all of this is driven partly by big data, which we can't hide from. 62 00:05:16.820 --> 00:05:20.780 And the question about that, obviously, here is everywhere in the world. 63 00:05:20.840 --> 00:05:21.800 Is what are the? 64 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:24.180 Privacy issues around all that. 65 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:26.280 And where is our digital footprint? 66 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:27.740 Is it being left behind? 67 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:29.420 Something I said when I was 10. 68 00:05:29.540 --> 00:05:31.900 Is someone going to tell me about when I'm 50? 69 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:33.680 All of that sort of problem. 70 00:05:33.980 --> 00:05:41.800 And then the idea that this is all manageable through a small little device that you hold in your hand is amazing. 71 00:05:42.260 --> 00:05:51.900 And when you just consider when the biggest hotel chain in the world, Airbnb, owns no hotel rooms, when the biggest taxi company, Uber, owns no taxis. 72 00:05:52.040 --> 00:06:01.420 When the biggest media company, Facebook, produces none of its own media, we know the world is obviously transfigured dramatically. 73 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:08.020 It's also enabled all the sort of sharing stuff, cars, bikes, vans, and so on. 74 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:20.440 But this obviously, and I'm telling you what you know, is so transformative that its impact, which is only going to unfold properly shortly, is as dramatic as the Industrial Revolution. 75 00:06:20.440 --> 00:06:24.980 And, you know, when you then see these spaces, this is actually a learning environment. 76 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.140 Well, they don't normally look like that historically. 77 00:06:27.780 --> 00:06:29.500 They look perhaps more like this. 78 00:06:30.200 --> 00:06:40.940 This is a bank, the biggest bank in Antwerp, where they put the banking facilities on the fifth floor and everything else down the bottom is really startup spaces and so on. 79 00:06:41.300 --> 00:06:44.920 If you know that this is Deutsche Bank, that sign is Deutsche Bank. 80 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.520 When you go in there, you think it's some sort of Zen meditation center. 81 00:06:48.640 --> 00:06:49.700 You can't see a banker. 82 00:06:49.940 --> 00:06:50.420 Yeah. 83 00:06:50.440 --> 00:06:55.900 I mean, you know, somewhere in the backdrop there is someone who might say, do you want a credit card? 84 00:06:56.740 --> 00:06:59.660 But it's sort of just sort of a sensuous experience. 85 00:06:59.880 --> 00:07:02.380 So the bank even has to say, what do we do? 86 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:10.780 And some of you probably know Zifferblatt, invented in Moscow, and they give you coffee and they give you croissants and all of that. 87 00:07:10.820 --> 00:07:12.060 But you don't pay for any of that. 88 00:07:12.200 --> 00:07:15.600 You have a chess clock on the side and you're paying through time. 89 00:07:15.880 --> 00:07:19.640 So that's three euros or whatever after 60 minutes. 90 00:07:19.640 --> 00:07:21.580 So you can have as much as you like. 91 00:07:21.780 --> 00:07:23.900 You can eat and drink and all of that. 92 00:07:23.980 --> 00:07:26.240 You're just paying for your time. 93 00:07:26.700 --> 00:07:34.780 And that is interesting because we're in what people call the subscription economy, where obviously we've got all this legacy of stuff. 94 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.120 So we put it in storage. 95 00:07:36.320 --> 00:07:43.140 But everything is about access to not only cars and vans and all of these things, but other things as well. 96 00:07:43.580 --> 00:07:47.760 So in other words, we're in the midst of redesigning the world and all its systems. 97 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:49.620 And obviously the question is, 98 00:07:49.640 --> 00:07:51.540 you know, what's our vision? What's our purpose? 99 00:07:51.740 --> 00:07:52.660 Where do we want to go? 100 00:07:52.840 --> 00:07:56.140 Is this ethically based or just more of the same? 101 00:07:56.540 --> 00:07:58.280 So that's up to you. 102 00:07:58.300 --> 00:07:59.500 That's up to Adelaide. 103 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:03.220 I don't know what the Adelaide and South Australian vision is. 104 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.020 And of course, when things change, you are all uncertain. 105 00:08:07.220 --> 00:08:08.960 And it's exciting at the one level. 106 00:08:09.020 --> 00:08:12.120 But of course, there are things which get frightening. 107 00:08:12.200 --> 00:08:18.960 And I would say Brexit in Britain is partly to do with people, apart from the migration issues people discussed in Britain. 108 00:08:19.640 --> 00:08:23.400 It's about being overwhelmed and frightened about what's happening. 109 00:08:23.860 --> 00:08:30.840 And so many people, and I think obviously you, you're here, have thought, well, let's look at this all afresh. 110 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.280 And for me, you can see on the cover of that book, there's this sort of line. 111 00:08:35.620 --> 00:08:39.620 And it's really how do we heal that line between people moving around, 112 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:44.020 but also us all wanting to somehow be anchored in place? 113 00:08:44.460 --> 00:08:49.340 And the problem is that certainly from a European perspective, the world is taking 114 00:08:49.640 --> 00:08:51.000 on turning to its darker face. 115 00:08:51.280 --> 00:08:52.920 There's apprehension in the air. 116 00:08:53.140 --> 00:08:55.900 Everything is defined in black and white terms. 117 00:08:56.220 --> 00:09:01.140 The beautiful grey zone where we have a bit of a chat exists less and less. 118 00:09:01.560 --> 00:09:06.100 And of course, in the cities, there's continual movement of people going out. 119 00:09:06.280 --> 00:09:07.540 But are they coming back? 120 00:09:07.760 --> 00:09:13.420 So we have vortex cities, the Berlin's, the Amsterdam's, the Lisbon's, everyone's sucked in there. 121 00:09:13.760 --> 00:09:19.040 But then you have all these smaller cities which are declining, shrinking and so on. 122 00:09:19.800 --> 00:09:24.220 And so there I ask, we ask or whatever, the one sentence summary of that book, 123 00:09:24.300 --> 00:09:27.360 you don't need to read it, is where do I belong or where do you belong? 124 00:09:27.420 --> 00:09:30.580 Where do we belong when everything is on the move? 125 00:09:31.180 --> 00:09:34.180 And even graffiti, this is Lisbon, is on the move. 126 00:09:35.100 --> 00:09:36.920 But the world is clearly in motion. 127 00:09:37.760 --> 00:09:39.120 The city is in motion. 128 00:09:39.220 --> 00:09:43.340 I mean, the amount of cranes in Adelaide is a version of the city is in motion. 129 00:09:43.780 --> 00:09:45.760 Obviously, then the old and the new. 130 00:09:45.880 --> 00:09:47.780 Do we like it? Is it all great? 131 00:09:47.900 --> 00:09:48.560 And so on. 132 00:09:48.560 --> 00:09:53.380 And so the question is, in that movement, where are these zones of encounter? 133 00:09:53.860 --> 00:09:55.600 Where are we going to meet? 134 00:09:55.880 --> 00:09:57.600 What sort of places are they? 135 00:09:57.740 --> 00:10:00.180 Are they places where we get on? 136 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:01.680 Do we find that all right? 137 00:10:01.820 --> 00:10:05.120 Are we at ease in these zones of encounter? 138 00:10:05.640 --> 00:10:08.420 Are they places where you share empathy? 139 00:10:08.740 --> 00:10:11.240 I'm not saying we should all love each other or anything like that. 140 00:10:11.300 --> 00:10:12.420 I'm not trying to be lovey dovey. 141 00:10:12.520 --> 00:10:17.940 I'm just saying, let's just sort of broadly see if we can get on. 142 00:10:18.560 --> 00:10:22.140 And clearly, many of these places, this isn't Covent Garden in London, 143 00:10:22.220 --> 00:10:27.820 are these classic meeting places and dense little streets, your lanes and so on. 144 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:29.560 Or a library. 145 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:32.500 This happens to be Seattle and so on. 146 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:34.720 But there are many more meeting places, of course. 147 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:37.380 But this nomadic thing you see everywhere. 148 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.280 I just caught this picture of this guy and he's got this thing where he's going 149 00:10:40.280 --> 00:10:45.300 to sleep and it has all the cities on the back named Stockholm, Vienna and all of 150 00:10:45.300 --> 00:10:48.320 that and that other guy there playing that instrument. 151 00:10:48.560 --> 00:10:51.640 He's trying to get some money in the metro and so on. 152 00:10:51.860 --> 00:10:55.940 And of course, we think this nomadic stuff is all about hipsters. 153 00:10:56.140 --> 00:11:00.520 It's not because they're probably about a billion people in varieties of ways 154 00:11:00.520 --> 00:11:05.540 moving at this moment, 80 million migrants and so on. 155 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:08.060 But there are all these other categories that I'll mention. 156 00:11:08.620 --> 00:11:13.920 And, you know, sometimes when you take photos like me obsessively and 98% are crap. 157 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:18.020 But I didn't realize that this guy in Vancouver, if you can see it, he had 158 00:11:18.020 --> 00:11:19.580 a bag which said roots. 159 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:22.840 They thought shit, this is exactly what I'm trying to talk about. 160 00:11:23.500 --> 00:11:26.340 So that was a gift from I don't know where from heaven. 161 00:11:26.980 --> 00:11:28.660 But you get the idea. 162 00:11:29.160 --> 00:11:32.800 And the other movement is the expat workers. 163 00:11:33.220 --> 00:11:34.300 This is Dubai. 164 00:11:34.900 --> 00:11:38.960 You know that they're looking obviously happy as the day finishes. 165 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:46.480 86% of people in that area of the world are not from the Emirates and so on. 166 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:49.820 And then you see, obviously, the migrants that have traveled 167 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:53.540 in Europe across the board is from Syria and so on. 168 00:11:53.820 --> 00:11:56.360 And then there's, of course, tourism, tourism. 169 00:11:56.880 --> 00:12:00.780 Well, the promise of globalization is diversity and difference. 170 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.700 But when I looked at all these buses from Sydney to Toronto, they all seem to be 171 00:12:05.700 --> 00:12:08.940 the same and nothing wrong with buses. 172 00:12:09.020 --> 00:12:16.180 But just as a reminder, international tourism has gone up 130 times in the last 50 years. 173 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.620 And there are many more people who want to see the must see sites. 174 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:25.260 So that is completely overwhelming cities and creating this tension, 175 00:12:25.400 --> 00:12:29.560 partly in many places between the insiders and the outsiders. 176 00:12:29.920 --> 00:12:35.960 I don't need to tell you that McDonald's is moving 38,000 of them floating around 177 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.100 the world everywhere, but also English is moving. 178 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:40.580 And in one way, it's fantastic. 179 00:12:40.880 --> 00:12:42.860 We can communicate across the world. 180 00:12:43.060 --> 00:12:46.360 There's lots of resistance beginning to happen in the French 181 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.460 speaking, German speaking world about saying, well, I've also got a culture. 182 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:53.520 It's expressed through language and I've got to speak this funny. 183 00:12:53.820 --> 00:12:57.420 Well, my version of English, their version of English. 184 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.840 So all of that is really an example of this movement. 185 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:03.980 There's also money moving at speed, 186 00:13:04.140 --> 00:13:08.720 crime moving at speed, lots of other things moving at speed. 187 00:13:09.280 --> 00:13:14.240 And within that, what I think you find is that people desire five things. 188 00:13:14.380 --> 00:13:15.740 Anchorage, where am I? 189 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.640 I've got something to hold on to, heritage, whatever possibility they want from place 190 00:13:20.640 --> 00:13:25.480 to though it seems the opposite, they want to connect with people inside and outside. 191 00:13:25.740 --> 00:13:28.780 They want some sort of thing to make themselves feel better. 192 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.420 Aspiration, you could call it, and perhaps also inspiration, 193 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:37.340 which historically may have been a church, but today maybe something else. 194 00:13:37.520 --> 00:13:40.620 It may also be nature that anchorage and so on. 195 00:13:41.020 --> 00:13:46.380 So all of that about being fixed in place, but at the same time, 196 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:52.200 making yourself open to that wider world really has an issue. 197 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.600 It's not a negative issue necessary, but it shifts how we see our own identities. 198 00:13:56.980 --> 00:13:58.600 I spoke to a couple of people last night 199 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:02.340 about where they live and where their family lived, and I began to get a headache 200 00:14:02.340 --> 00:14:06.940 from some of them because, oh yeah, I'm three days a week here, four days there. 201 00:14:07.040 --> 00:14:09.140 My kids are there, et cetera, et cetera. 202 00:14:09.400 --> 00:14:11.260 And this is such a common experience. 203 00:14:11.880 --> 00:14:16.400 So this question of connection is, I think, 204 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:21.960 absolutely vital, but also having places, and this happens to be a library in Rio, 205 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:28.960 where you really feel you can bond and blend with others who you might get to know. 206 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:33.220 And when you then ask the question, what qualities do people want from their 207 00:14:33.220 --> 00:14:36.820 cities, it's that, what I think I've just said in part. 208 00:14:37.140 --> 00:14:40.240 But they also are saying so many similar things. 209 00:14:40.340 --> 00:14:44.500 The global agenda, the UN are all saying the usual things, not usual, nothing wrong 210 00:14:44.500 --> 00:14:45.580 with them, let's be inclusive. 211 00:14:45.580 --> 00:14:46.520 Let's be sustainable. 212 00:14:47.060 --> 00:14:49.780 Did you want to be unsustainable and all that question? 213 00:14:50.060 --> 00:14:53.720 But so that global agenda is set. 214 00:14:53.940 --> 00:14:56.840 The question is, why isn't it really happening? 215 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:01.260 And to summarise it in a simple sentence, you could say that many people want that 216 00:15:01.260 --> 00:15:07.040 village feel, the best of the village feel, with that other sense of being part 217 00:15:07.040 --> 00:15:10.140 of a wider world and so on. 218 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.440 Now, I think in this cyberspace world, 219 00:15:15.580 --> 00:15:19.700 the more and more you look at it, the more and more you see research by people, 220 00:15:19.900 --> 00:15:22.600 place matters as never before. 221 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:25.500 And it's really this combination, obviously, 222 00:15:25.580 --> 00:15:29.640 of that which is here and that which is there that makes sense. 223 00:15:30.040 --> 00:15:35.140 But to do that and to transform that into the sort of policies in day to day terms 224 00:15:35.140 --> 00:15:40.280 and how things work, how streets work, really requires some dramatic shifts. 225 00:15:40.780 --> 00:15:45.300 And when you think about it, what you're trying to do, I believe, 226 00:15:45.580 --> 00:15:50.580 the best city makers are really trying to create conditions for people to become or 227 00:15:50.580 --> 00:15:55.280 be their full selves and that, of course, differs because some people want this, 228 00:15:55.340 --> 00:15:59.580 others want something else. And the great rethinking that we've all 229 00:15:59.580 --> 00:16:04.340 seen and you've been part of and looking at the Adelaide story, I've seen, 230 00:16:04.420 --> 00:16:07.720 I feel I can see it here. Initially, there was that thing, 231 00:16:07.800 --> 00:16:09.860 let's get the infrastructure a bit better. 232 00:16:09.900 --> 00:16:11.800 Let's make it more beautiful. 233 00:16:12.100 --> 00:16:15.140 You know, your airport, I put the picture without the subway. 234 00:16:15.140 --> 00:16:17.480 And don't worry, I couldn't bear seeing that subway. 235 00:16:18.040 --> 00:16:19.740 Who decided that? Crazy. 236 00:16:21.020 --> 00:16:26.080 But anyway, but this is an example of returning to some sort of aesthetic view 237 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.420 of what infrastructure could and can be like. 238 00:16:29.700 --> 00:16:35.080 And then, of course, many people said the artistic contribution will give that place 239 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:39.220 vitality of some sort. And then, of course, when you've got 240 00:16:39.220 --> 00:16:44.700 interesting infrastructure, urban vitality, then, of course, that creates the conditions 241 00:16:45.140 --> 00:16:50.060 for the knowledge economy to take place, which then in turn allows the startup 242 00:16:50.060 --> 00:16:55.520 culture to develop and so on. As you can imagine, this startup sauna is in Finland. 243 00:16:55.960 --> 00:17:00.820 And the next stage, of course, that everybody is talking about is how do you 244 00:17:00.820 --> 00:17:06.300 create a planet conscious city, a planet conscious world, which again requires 245 00:17:06.300 --> 00:17:10.740 these dramatic shifts in regulations and incentives. 246 00:17:12.020 --> 00:17:13.960 But one of the things that's always been underlying. 247 00:17:15.140 --> 00:17:19.280 In these movements, and so many of you who have collaborated here in this room 248 00:17:19.280 --> 00:17:23.380 have been part of this, which is this whole distinctiveness, like this whole 249 00:17:23.380 --> 00:17:27.760 business of being special when everything is global. 250 00:17:28.220 --> 00:17:30.440 And, you know, here, this is Venice. 251 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:34.520 You probably know that you can see that this is Naomi Campbell in Venice. 252 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:36.000 Great. OK, fine. 253 00:17:36.320 --> 00:17:36.960 Thanks, Naomi. 254 00:17:37.420 --> 00:17:40.020 Glad you're here. This is Venice. 255 00:17:40.220 --> 00:17:41.320 We've got no money. 256 00:17:41.380 --> 00:17:44.380 Need a few sizzlies to help us fund all 257 00:17:44.380 --> 00:17:47.040 the repairs. So that's the real Venice. 258 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:52.300 This actually is a copy of Venice in Las Vegas, which is fine, nearly. 259 00:17:52.740 --> 00:17:56.540 And this is a copy of a copy of Venice in Macau. 260 00:17:56.780 --> 00:18:00.540 And there is another picture of that copy of a copy. 261 00:18:00.700 --> 00:18:03.620 And here is the Grand Canal on the third 262 00:18:03.620 --> 00:18:07.200 floor in the copy of the copy of Venice in Macau. 263 00:18:07.700 --> 00:18:10.860 And you can go to H&M and buy some clothes. 264 00:18:11.020 --> 00:18:11.700 Isn't that exciting? 265 00:18:12.540 --> 00:18:13.140 Ozara. 266 00:18:14.380 --> 00:18:16.980 And then you come back to Venice, to the station. 267 00:18:17.180 --> 00:18:19.720 And this is the copy of the copy of the copy of Venice. 268 00:18:20.220 --> 00:18:23.660 So whatever you do, don't call your new 269 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:28.980 precincts things like Soho, because I could also talk about Sohos everywhere. 270 00:18:29.420 --> 00:18:33.700 There's vast numbers of Sohos around the world because Soho, by definition, 271 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.400 is cool, isn't it? If I say Soho, it makes me cool or not. 272 00:18:38.300 --> 00:18:40.600 And so that was a real thing. 273 00:18:40.840 --> 00:18:43.300 But when you then take a helicopter view 274 00:18:43.300 --> 00:18:49.200 of all of these places, I think you can feel this deep yearning 275 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:53.900 for a city that operates differently, that's not this simple cash is all, 276 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:58.120 consumption is all, and that yearning, I think you see when you're just wandering 277 00:18:58.120 --> 00:19:01.900 around, you see people looking into the far distance and saying things like, 278 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.780 does this need to be so? 279 00:19:04.300 --> 00:19:06.820 This was when Sao Paulo decided to get rid 280 00:19:06.820 --> 00:19:09.400 of all the ads just because it was too overwhelming. 281 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:11.020 They're letting a few back. 282 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:13.160 So all the billboards of Sao Paulo, 283 00:19:13.300 --> 00:19:15.020 disappeared for a decade. 284 00:19:15.620 --> 00:19:20.120 And there is, as you probably know, the digital detox movement where you've got 285 00:19:20.120 --> 00:19:22.920 to really shut off your phone, you've got to chuck it out the window for a while, 286 00:19:23.060 --> 00:19:26.920 just to actually work out where you are. 287 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:30.400 And I saw this pub a month ago, and it's in Bristol. 288 00:19:30.740 --> 00:19:32.580 And it's a very popular pub. 289 00:19:32.860 --> 00:19:34.600 And there are all these cats on the counter. 290 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:36.000 I bet you wouldn't allow it in Australia. 291 00:19:36.220 --> 00:19:40.140 Anyway, of course, all these people, health and safety. 292 00:19:40.360 --> 00:19:42.220 Sorry, I am into health and safety. 293 00:19:42.740 --> 00:19:43.180 But 294 00:19:43.300 --> 00:19:48.960 there are people, of course, stroking these cats continually and so on. 295 00:19:49.820 --> 00:19:50.820 So there we are. 296 00:19:50.860 --> 00:19:53.860 The city we need has been expressed at the UN. 297 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:57.380 As I said earlier, there was this big Habitat event. 298 00:19:57.580 --> 00:20:01.260 It talks about these things, about inclusion, giving back. 299 00:20:01.820 --> 00:20:06.220 There's the Global Solutions Summit, which all is going in the same direction. 300 00:20:06.420 --> 00:20:12.120 But rarely in these events do we talk about the deep interests that seem 301 00:20:12.120 --> 00:20:16.820 to stop some of the things we all think we want really happening. 302 00:20:17.100 --> 00:20:20.020 And my argument, of course, is when you look at it culturally, 303 00:20:20.800 --> 00:20:25.640 that gives you the oxygen to really see what could be what is right, 304 00:20:25.780 --> 00:20:28.420 what is good for the particular place you're in. 305 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:31.440 And of course, this sentence took me years to work out. 306 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:33.620 Creativity is a renewable resource. 307 00:20:34.140 --> 00:20:35.940 Heritage is non-renewable. 308 00:20:36.040 --> 00:20:38.420 It can, of course, be reinterpreted. 309 00:20:38.460 --> 00:20:41.980 So that's a bit like having money and resources. 310 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:46.600 And I also think that heritage and history are great partners, 311 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:49.940 which is why I'm so interested is when the cities are in the move and when all 312 00:20:49.940 --> 00:20:53.060 these cranes are there, is it all just knocking everything down? 313 00:20:53.280 --> 00:20:57.120 Or is it doing interesting combinations of the old and the new? 314 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:02.480 And isn't it surprising or not that here Paris is discussing its future? 315 00:21:02.620 --> 00:21:07.280 And of course, it's in an old building that they're discussing their future. 316 00:21:07.700 --> 00:21:10.760 And today's classic, I've said this many times before, 317 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:11.920 is often, 318 00:21:12.120 --> 00:21:17.400 yesterday's innovation, like the Eiffel Tower, was innovative. 319 00:21:18.360 --> 00:21:22.380 But what I like about this is that there's a hydroponic building next to it. 320 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:24.140 So that's today's innovation. 321 00:21:25.380 --> 00:21:30.340 So, but city making, given all of these things, is a contested art. 322 00:21:31.140 --> 00:21:32.460 Art is an art. 323 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:36.640 But it means that planning, I believe, has to be rethought more as a mediation 324 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:41.820 process than something like spatial planning, defined as city 325 00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:47.580 making. And I saw this image in Zurich West, the hip area where PayPal is moving 326 00:21:47.580 --> 00:21:50.760 in and Amazon, and they built a new hotel called Renaissance. 327 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:51.840 I don't know if you can see it. 328 00:21:52.040 --> 00:21:55.720 And then there was this artist who said, you're not going to have my building. 329 00:21:55.860 --> 00:22:01.020 And in the same typeface, he put resistance and cities in transformation. 330 00:22:01.140 --> 00:22:04.420 That is, that one image expresses everything, 331 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:09.760 which is why planning is about mediation, how you deal with the best of both. 332 00:22:10.040 --> 00:22:12.040 And here's a graffiti with Ganges. 333 00:22:12.120 --> 00:22:14.640 Let's hope it's done in a Gandhian way. 334 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:22.180 So as I draw to conclusions, what I'm really saying is city making is 335 00:22:22.180 --> 00:22:26.300 really about an empowering ethos, the creative city making, 336 00:22:27.080 --> 00:22:30.580 about thinking, planning and acting with imagination. 337 00:22:31.080 --> 00:22:34.520 And what that does require, because this is all a bit open ended initially, 338 00:22:34.700 --> 00:22:39.980 at least, requires trust, relationships of trust between, let's say, 339 00:22:40.020 --> 00:22:42.000 the public bureaucracy and others. 340 00:22:42.120 --> 00:22:47.180 And the challenge in all of these movements is it not to be technology driven. 341 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:48.720 And I saw this woman. 342 00:22:48.780 --> 00:22:52.140 This is a classic Frankfurt Airport who said free hug. 343 00:22:52.380 --> 00:22:54.840 So I thought, how the hell can I get a picture of her? 344 00:22:55.060 --> 00:22:56.180 Okay, I better hug her. 345 00:22:56.340 --> 00:22:57.180 So I did. 346 00:22:57.460 --> 00:22:58.700 I was a bit embarrassed. 347 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:00.960 I got a bit red and all that sort of stuff. 348 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:05.060 But it was emblematic of the world we're in. 349 00:23:05.500 --> 00:23:09.920 And so I just want to wrap up with talking about the regulation system, 350 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:11.860 because to make some of this stuff 351 00:23:12.120 --> 00:23:16.520 happen, you need a bureaucracy that is perhaps itself reinvented. 352 00:23:16.620 --> 00:23:20.220 And creative bureaucracy makes you think, what do you mean creative bureaucracy? 353 00:23:20.900 --> 00:23:24.420 But what we're saying, and Margie, Margie Kors, who's here in the audience, 354 00:23:24.520 --> 00:23:27.660 we together wrote this little book, and what we're saying is there's hidden 355 00:23:27.660 --> 00:23:34.120 talent that knows all of these things, wants to do the good stuff that we all want. 356 00:23:34.300 --> 00:23:39.940 But there are in this world of massive change, the structures that exist are not helping. 357 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:41.280 This is German. 358 00:23:41.280 --> 00:23:44.720 It basically says multi-talented, but mul means garbage. 359 00:23:45.080 --> 00:23:48.620 But anyway, you get the idea that there are hidden resources. 360 00:23:49.280 --> 00:23:53.840 And of course, there are cliches about the bureaucracy and so on. 361 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:57.400 And you can, you know, criticize it. 362 00:23:57.520 --> 00:23:59.600 But there's so much light on the horizon 363 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.900 that I think we should play with the light rather than look at the dark. 364 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:06.840 Of course, the cliche is that it's all red tape. 365 00:24:07.020 --> 00:24:08.740 There's lots of stuff hanging around. 366 00:24:09.140 --> 00:24:10.400 Nobody's making decisions. 367 00:24:11.280 --> 00:24:15.220 But the system, people say, is sometimes too rigid. 368 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:21.200 And that leads to the sort of problems of frustration and this endless thing we've 369 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:25.840 talked about for 40 years, all of us, how do you get rid of the silo when the 370 00:24:25.840 --> 00:24:30.180 problems are so integrated in the world that you have to look at them together? 371 00:24:30.560 --> 00:24:34.740 And as we said in that little book, we said often that institution, 372 00:24:35.080 --> 00:24:40.480 these institutions recruit the brightest, but trains them to conform. 373 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:44.780 But they live in a new world and that, their private life and their public life, 374 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:49.760 often then is in misalignment and that can create a problem, obviously. 375 00:24:50.120 --> 00:24:55.500 And just when you think about this big shift, crowd urbanism, crowd urbanism, 376 00:24:55.500 --> 00:24:58.080 you know, is letting the stuff come from below. 377 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.140 There's so much of that going on in the world. 378 00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:00.760 It's unbelievable. 379 00:25:01.320 --> 00:25:03.880 And this interesting and difficult shift 380 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:10.200 and blend between this participatory drive and representative democracy is really 381 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:15.000 where we're at at the moment. Easy to say, difficult to think your way 382 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.300 through it in detailed terms, in terms of rules and regulations. 383 00:25:19.860 --> 00:25:22.560 But what it is about is that there's so 384 00:25:22.560 --> 00:25:27.200 many movements that want to bring to the city, to their place, to make it better. 385 00:25:27.300 --> 00:25:29.520 But often the rules forbid it. 386 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:35.340 And one main thing there is really that we need, obviously, more openness and 387 00:25:35.340 --> 00:25:39.680 closeness, this idea of the living lab, urban commons. 388 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:43.000 All of these words that you're hearing is really the direction. 389 00:25:43.420 --> 00:25:47.800 And in terms of light, this is a bureaucracy picture of Adelaide. 390 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.740 You know, I think, you know, just one example, 391 00:25:51.020 --> 00:25:58.220 Change SA is one of the sparks of light in all of this, that program that you ran for many years. 392 00:25:58.480 --> 00:25:59.400 But there are others. 393 00:25:59.520 --> 00:25:59.980 Oh, sorry. 394 00:26:00.040 --> 00:26:05.680 That's a woman who's amazing, who runs the Laboratorio para la Ciudad in Mexico City. 395 00:26:05.780 --> 00:26:08.360 Twenty two people who the mayor has asked, 396 00:26:08.460 --> 00:26:09.240 provokes, 397 00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:13.060 focus, provokes, find new solutions, look at things differently. 398 00:26:13.660 --> 00:26:15.820 She's a filmmaker, interestingly enough. 399 00:26:16.140 --> 00:26:22.460 So these 22 people are within that system helping put some new blood into it. 400 00:26:22.660 --> 00:26:26.860 Another example, I'm only using it because it says the unperfect house. 401 00:26:27.180 --> 00:26:29.020