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<v Tracey Bunda>Welcome this afternoon to our speaker Wilma Mankiller, Cherokee woman.

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<v Tracey Bunda>We're very honoured to be able to have Wilma come to Australia and speak to us.

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<v Tracey Bunda>Wilma is, in my language, in my way of speaking, Wilma, you're a big, big woman, you know.

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<v Tracey Bunda>Not in the physical size, but just in terms of having done very many things

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<v Tracey Bunda>in terms of community development and empowering community.

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<v Tracey Bunda>So I'm just going to give one house detail at the end of this particular session.

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<v Tracey Bunda>This hall needs to be vacated, so I'll hand over to Wilma.

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<v Tracey Bunda>Can you join with me in welcoming Wilma Mankiller?

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<v Tracey Bunda>Thank you.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Thank you, thank you all very much.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I want to begin by introducing my husband, Charlie Soap.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I have some physical disabilities and I could not have made this trip without his help

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and I would have never been elected without his help.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>So I want to introduce him.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>He's somewhere here in the audience.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>His name is Charlie Soap.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>There he is.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Thank you.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>So.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's really my honor to be here to participate in this wonderful festival.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I've really, really enjoyed learning about a lot of the issues in this country

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and it's been very helpful to me and I've picked up more books

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<v Wilma Mankiller>than I'll ever be able to get back home on the plane.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>So I want to begin by being clear that I don't speak for all indigenous people

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<v Wilma Mankiller>or even all Cherokee people, that the thoughts that I'll share with you today,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>are derived entirely from my own experience as an elected tribal leader,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>as an indigenous rights activist, and as a writer.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Most of my remarks today will concern indigenous people of North America,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>though I've visited indigenous communities in China and South Africa and Ecuador and New Zealand,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>as well as the rainforest of Brazil.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>There are over 300 million indigenous people in virtually every region of the world.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Including the Sami peoples of Scandinavia, the Maya of Guatemala,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>numerous tribal groups in the Amazon, the Dalits in the mountains of southern India,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the San and Kwe of southern Africa, the Cherokee in Oklahoma,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and of course the Aboriginal people of Australia.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>There is enormous diversity among communities of indigenous people,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>each of which has its own distinct culture, language, history, and unique ways of living.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Indigenous people across the globe do not share a collective sense of identity,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>but many do share some common values derived from an understanding that their lives are

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<v Wilma Mankiller>part of and inseparable from the natural world.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Onondaga Chief Orrin Lyons once said,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Our knowledge is profound and comes from living in one place for untold generations.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It comes from watching the sun rise in the east and set in the west from the west.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It comes from the fact that we are all in the same place over great sections of time.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>We are as familiar with the lands, rivers, and great seas that surround us as we are

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<v Wilma Mankiller>with the faces of our mothers.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Indeed, we call the earth Iti Noha, our mother, from whence all life springs.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>This deeply felt sense of place and interdependence with all other living things fuels a duty

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and responsibility to conserve and protect the natural world that is a sacred place for

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the people of the land.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It is a place where we can be a provider of food, medicine, and spiritual sustenance.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Hundreds of seasonal ceremonies are regularly conducted by Indigenous people all across

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the world to express thanksgiving for the many gifts of nature, to acknowledge seasonal

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<v Wilma Mankiller>changes, and to remind people of their obligations to each other and to the earth.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>In many Indigenous communities, traditional stories embody the collective memory of the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>people.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>These stories often describe the lives of people who have been in the land for many

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<v Wilma Mankiller>years.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>They describe how things were in the distant past.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>What happened to cause the world to be as it is today.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Some stories project far into the future.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The prophecies of many Indigenous groups predict that the world will end when the people

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<v Wilma Mankiller>are no longer capable of protecting nature or restoring its balance.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Two of the most widely quoted prophecies in the U.S. are those of the Hopi and Iroquois,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>both of whom have long predicted that the world will end if human beings

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<v Wilma Mankiller>forget their responsibilities to the natural world. These prophecies seem

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<v Wilma Mankiller>particularly appropriate in this era of increasing alarm about the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>catastrophic effects of climate change and questions about the long-term

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<v Wilma Mankiller>survival of humankind if we continue on the same path. Indigenous peoples are

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<v Wilma Mankiller>certainly not the only people who understand their insignificance in the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>totality of the planet. Former US Vice President Al Gore said, at some point

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<v Wilma Mankiller>during this journey we lost our feeling of connectedness to the rest of nature.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>We now dare to wonder are we so unique and powerful as to be essentially

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<v Wilma Mankiller>separate from the earth. There are many thousands of people from different

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<v Wilma Mankiller>ethnic groups who care deeply about the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>environment and fight every day to protect the earth. The difference is that

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<v Wilma Mankiller>indigenous people have the benefit of being regularly reminded of their

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<v Wilma Mankiller>responsibilities by stories and ceremonies. They remain close to the land

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<v Wilma Mankiller>not only in the way they live but in their hearts and in the way they view

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the world. Protecting the environment is not an intellectual exercise for

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<v Wilma Mankiller>indigenous people, it's a sacred duty. Author and feminist Gloria Steinem

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<v Wilma Mankiller>observes that all people at one time felt that way. She says once indeed for

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<v Wilma Mankiller>nearly all the time that human beings have walked this earth you and I would

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<v Wilma Mankiller>have been living very differently in small bands raising our children

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<v Wilma Mankiller>together as if each child were our own and migrating with the seasons. There were

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<v Wilma Mankiller>no nations, no lines drawn in the sand. Instead there were migratory paths and

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<v Wilma Mankiller>watering places with trade and culture blossoming wherever the path

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<v Wilma Mankiller>came together in patterns that spread over the continents like lace. I thought

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<v Wilma Mankiller>that was a wonderful quote by Gloria. Too many people though I think have no

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<v Wilma Mankiller>memory of that time because there's an absence of the stories and ceremonies to

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<v Wilma Mankiller>remind them. They're distant from the land and therefore distant from

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<v Wilma Mankiller>themselves and they understand little have little understanding of their place

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Last week I was

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<v Wilma Mankiller>on a busy New York City street at the magical time of dusk. It was interesting

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<v Wilma Mankiller>to watch the people in New York, not a single person in the crowd pause to look

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<v Wilma Mankiller>at or acknowledge the sunset and the gift of another day. It made me wonder

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<v Wilma Mankiller>how many millions of urban dwellers go about their lives without ever really

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<v Wilma Mankiller>seeing or ever really thinking about the miracle of the Sun rising in the morning

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and setting again in the evening.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Aside from a different view of their relationship to the natural world, many of the world's

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<v Wilma Mankiller>indigenous people also share a fragmented but still very present sense of responsibility

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<v Wilma Mankiller>for one another. Cooperation has always been necessary for the survival of tribal people

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and even today cooperation often takes precedence over competition in more traditional communities.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's really quite miraculous that a sense of sharing and reciprocity between tribes,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>in which low-income volunteers work together to build walking trails, community centers,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>sports complexes, water lines, and houses.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>This self-help movement taps into the traditional value of cooperation for the sake of the common good.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Besides values, the world's indigenous people are also bound by the common experience of being

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<v Wilma Mankiller>quote, discovered, unquote, and subjected to colonial expansion into their territories

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<v Wilma Mankiller>that led to the loss of an incalculable number of lives and millions and millions of acres of land and resources.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The most basic rights of indigenous people were disregarded,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and they were subjected to a series of policies that were designed to assimilate them into colonial society and culture.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Too often, colonial policies resulted instead in poverty, high infant mortality, rampant unemployment,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>substance abuse, and all its attendant.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The stories are shockingly similar all over the world.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>When I read Achebe's Things Fall Apart, which chronicled the systematic destruction of an African tribe's social,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>cultural, and economic structure, it sounded all too familiar to me.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's like they had a little black book in the back of their pocket that said,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>take the land, discredit the leaders, ridicule the traditional healers, send the children off to distant boarding schools.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It happened in Africa, it happened in South America, it happened here, and it happened in the U.S.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And when I first heard about the stolen generation report here in Australia,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I was very disturbed in a very deep way.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>My own father and my Aunt Sally were taken from my grandfather by the U.S. government

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and placed in a boarding school when they were five and six.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>So the story here...

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<v Wilma Mankiller>is sad because it's so familiar, and it happened all over the world.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And so I think when people have asked me repeatedly this week,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>what things do we have in common here, the people in the U.S., and the people here, and indeed people all over the world,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I tell them that we're connected by our values, and we're also connected by our oppression.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>When contemplating the contemporary challenges,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and problems faced by Indigenous people worldwide,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>it's important to remember, always remember,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>that the roots of many current social, economic, and political problems can be found in colonial policies.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And these policies continue today across the globe.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The draconian intervention policy recently announced by the Australian government

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<v Wilma Mankiller>is an unbelievably misguided attempt to solve a series of problems.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's a series of social and economic problems in Indigenous communities

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<v Wilma Mankiller>that the government itself helped create over time.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>These policies were developed without talking to community leaders or elders.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Indeed, in the same news cycle, there was another story about a community in the Gulf of Carpinteria

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<v Wilma Mankiller>that has dramatically decreased crime, increased the educational attainment level,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and improved every other social indicator.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Community improvement is a key factor in the development of community development.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The government's efforts to improve community development

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and the efforts to improve community development

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<v Wilma Mankiller>are always more successful than those conceptualized by outsiders.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The struggle continues in many other places as well.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>In the Amazonian rainforest, Indigenous people are continually battling

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<v Wilma Mankiller>large-scale destruction of their traditional home in the forest

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<v Wilma Mankiller>by multinational mining, oil, and timber companies.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Some small Amazonian Indigenous communities are on the verge of extinction

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<v Wilma Mankiller>as a result of the destruction of their homes.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The American American Eastern

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<v Wilma Mankiller>rainforest. And a number of the international environmental groups working to protect the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>rainforest do little to protect the people of the rainforest who possess the best knowledge

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<v Wilma Mankiller>about how to live with and sustain the forest. It's not surprising that indigenous people

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<v Wilma Mankiller>are not in the consciousness of many people. There's too little accurate information about

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<v Wilma Mankiller>indigenous people available in educational institutions, in literature or films, or in

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the popular culture. The battle to protect the human and land rights of indigenous people

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<v Wilma Mankiller>is made immeasurably more difficult by the fact that so few people know much about either

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the history or contemporary lives of indigenous people. And without any kind of historical

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<v Wilma Mankiller>context, it's almost impossible for outsiders to understand indigenous issues. The information

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<v Wilma Mankiller>that is available is often produced by non-native people, some of which

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<v Wilma Mankiller>are not indigenous. Some of which are not indigenous. Some of which are not indigenous.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The information being presented in Eastern American literature is being used in Eastern

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<v Wilma Mankiller>American literature, being used in Eastern American literature, being used in Eastern

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the other hand, romanticize them as innocent children of nature, spiritual but incapable

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<v Wilma Mankiller>of higher thought. Either way, I think the stereotypes are very harmful. The stereotypes

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<v Wilma Mankiller>about Indigenous women are particularly appalling. While the role of Indigenous women in the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>family and community now and in the past differs from community to community, women have always

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<v Wilma Mankiller>played very significant roles in tribal society. Yet in the media and the larger society,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the power, strength, and complexity of Indigenous women is rarely acknowledged or recognized.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>That will change in the future. Indigenous leaders now understand that there is a direct

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<v Wilma Mankiller>link between public perception and public policies and that they must frame their own

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<v Wilma Mankiller>issues. If Indigenous people don't frame the issues for themselves, then public

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<v Wilma Mankiller>forums, their opponents most certainly will. In the future, as more Indigenous people become

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<v Wilma Mankiller>filmmakers, writers, historians, museum curators, and journalists, they'll be able to use a

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<v Wilma Mankiller>dazzling array of technological tools to tell their own stories instead of having other

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<v Wilma Mankiller>people tell a very distorted story about them.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Earlier this week, a local journalist here in Adelaide asked me whether people in the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>U.S. had trouble accepting the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>government of the Cherokee Nation during my tenure as principal chief. I was a little

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<v Wilma Mankiller>surprised by the question. The government of the Cherokee Nation actually predated the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>government of the United States, and the Cherokee Nation had treaties with other countries before

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<v Wilma Mankiller>it executed a treaty with one of the first U.S. colonies. Many of our tribal leaders

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<v Wilma Mankiller>sent delegations to meet with the English, the Spanish, and the French in an effort to

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<v Wilma Mankiller>protect their lands and people.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Traveling to foreign lands with a trusted interpreter, tribal ambassadors took maps

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<v Wilma Mankiller>that had been painstakingly drawn by hand to show their lands to heads of other governments.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>They also took along gifts, letters, and proclamations. Though tribal leaders thought they were being

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<v Wilma Mankiller>dealt with as heads of state and as equals, historical records indicate that they were

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<v Wilma Mankiller>often merely objects of curiosity and there was a great deal of interest in the land.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The U.S. government was a great deal of disdain and ridicule of these earnest delegates.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The journalist with a question about Cherokee government needn't apologize for her lack

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<v Wilma Mankiller>of knowledge about tribal governments in the U.S. Many people in the U.S. know very little

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<v Wilma Mankiller>about the history of indigenous people. And in my view, it's impossible to even contemplate

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the contemporary lives or future of indigenous people without some basic knowledge of tribal

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<v Wilma Mankiller>history and culture. There are actually more than a hundred people in the U.S. who have

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<v Wilma Mankiller>more than 550 federally recognized tribal governments in the U.S. who have a direct

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<v Wilma Mankiller>government-to-government relationship with a federal government. The Department of Interior

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<v Wilma Mankiller>is the unit of government that most frequently deals with tribal governments. Ironically,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the Department of Interior began as the War Department and then evolved into the Department

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<v Wilma Mankiller>of Interior over time.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The land base and population of tribal governments in the U.S. range from those with millions

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<v Wilma Mankiller>of acres to some with less than a hundred acres. The U.S. government is a very diverse and

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<v Wilma Mankiller>diverse country with less than 25 acres of land. And the population ranges from the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Navajo and Cherokee nations, each with an enrolled membership of more than a quarter of a million

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<v Wilma Mankiller>members to some tribal governments with less than 100 members. It's important to note that

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the population or land base of a sovereign entity does not determine the degree to which

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<v Wilma Mankiller>it enjoys the rights to self-governance. Just as the tiny principality of Monaco enjoys

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<v Wilma Mankiller>some of the same international rights as China and the U.S., tribal governments in the U.S.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>exercise a range of sovereign rights. Most tribal governments have their own judicial

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<v Wilma Mankiller>systems, operate their own police force, run their own schools, administer their own clinics

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and hospitals, and operate a wide range of business enterprises. There are now over two

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<v Wilma Mankiller>dozen tribally controlled tribal governments. The U.S. government has a wide range of business enterprises. There are now over two dozen tribally controlled

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<v Wilma Mankiller>tribal community colleges. All these advancements benefit everybody in the community, not just

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<v Wilma Mankiller>tribal people. The history, contemporary lives, and future of tribal governments is intertwined

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<v Wilma Mankiller>with that of their neighbors. One of the most common misperceptions about indigenous people

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<v Wilma Mankiller>is that they are all the same. There is not only great diversity between indigenous peoples

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<v Wilma Mankiller>around the world, there is great diversity between indigenous peoples. There is great

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<v Wilma Mankiller>diversity within each tribal community, just as there is in a larger society. If there

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<v Wilma Mankiller>is a high crime rate or alcoholism or drugs in one community, in the public there is a

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<v Wilma Mankiller>general assumption that the same is true for every tribal community. In yesterday's newspaper

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<v Wilma Mankiller>there was a lengthy article about the alcoholism problems on the Pine Ridge Reservation, which

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<v Wilma Mankiller>is one of the most troubled and most often written about tribal community in the U.S.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I have been repeatedly asked about the problems of alcoholism and drug use. The article is

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<v Wilma Mankiller>alcoholism in our Cherokee communities. In truth, the alcoholism rate in Cherokee communities

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<v Wilma Mankiller>is about the same as in the larger society around us, perhaps a little lower. The University of

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Oklahoma once produced a chart showing the level of alcoholism among the 26 tribal governments in

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Oklahoma. In some cases, alcoholism was hardly a problem at all. In other cases, it was severe.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>There are few, if any, news reports about the many dozens of innovative programs being

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<v Wilma Mankiller>administered by tribal governments, or the hotels in Washington, DC owned and operated by tribal

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<v Wilma Mankiller>government, or the retail outlets and shopping malls owned by Arizona tribes, or the airline

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<v Wilma Mankiller>company owned and operated by consortium of Canadian indigenous people. Again, each indigenous

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<v Wilma Mankiller>community is unique, just as each community in the United States is unique. In the United States,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the largest society is unique. Too many people, I believe, tend to view indigenous people through a

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<v Wilma Mankiller>very narrow, one-dimensional lens. Alcoholism is a critical problem in Russia, yet the first question

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<v Wilma Mankiller>asked of Russian leaders is not about alcoholism in Russia. Russia is viewed, the Russian people

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<v Wilma Mankiller>are viewed with a much wider lens, and the Russian citizens are seen as complex, multi-dimensional

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<v Wilma Mankiller>human beings. Indigenous people are not.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>So what does the future hold for indigenous people across the globe, and what are some

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<v Wilma Mankiller>of the challenges, and what does it mean to be an indigenous person in the 21st century?

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I believe that to see the future of indigenous people, one needs only look to the past. If

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<v Wilma Mankiller>we have, as a people, been able to survive a daunting loss of land, of rights, of resources,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and lives, how can I not be optimistic?

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<v Wilma Mankiller>As a people, we will survive whatever challenges lie ahead, and 100 or 500 years from now,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>we'll still have viable indigenous communities. Without question, the combined efforts of

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<v Wilma Mankiller>governments and various religious groups to eradicate traditional knowledge systems has

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<v Wilma Mankiller>had a profoundly negative impact on the culture, as well as the social and economic systems

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<v Wilma Mankiller>of indigenous peoples. But if we've been able to hold onto our sense of community,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>language, culture, and ceremonies despite everything, how can I not be optimistic about

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the future?

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And though some original languages, ceremonies, and knowledge systems have been irretrievably

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<v Wilma Mankiller>lost, the ceremonial fires of many indigenous peoples across the globe have survived the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>storm and all its attendant upheaval. Sometimes indigenous communities that have been removed

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<v Wilma Mankiller>from their homeland have almost had to re-establish themselves.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The indigenous people have been forced to reinvent themselves as a people, but they've

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<v Wilma Mankiller>never given up their sense of responsibility to one another and to the land. It is this

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<v Wilma Mankiller>sense of interdependence that has sustained tribal people thus far, and I believe it will

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<v Wilma Mankiller>sustain them well into the 21st century and beyond.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Indigenous people know about change and have proven time and time again that they can adapt

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<v Wilma Mankiller>to change. No matter where they go in the world, they hold onto a strong sense of tribal

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<v Wilma Mankiller>identity while interacting with and participating in the cultural and cultural events that make

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<v Wilma Mankiller>them a part of society.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>In the state of Oklahoma, we have learned how to live very effectively in both worlds.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And just in our state alone, we have produced an astronaut, an indigenous astronaut, three

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<v Wilma Mankiller>wonderful prima donnas who are very active in their tribe, a prima ballerina, a United

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<v Wilma Mankiller>States congressman, a Pulitzer Prize winning novelist, and countless others who have made

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<v Wilma Mankiller>great contributions to the state and to the world.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I believe that one of the great challenges for indigenous people within their own communities

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<v Wilma Mankiller>will be to develop practical models to capture, maintain, and pass on traditional knowledge

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<v Wilma Mankiller>systems to future generations in their communities. Nothing can replace the sense of continuity

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and knowing that a genuine understanding of traditional tribal knowledge brings. Many

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<v Wilma Mankiller>communities are working on this.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The American

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Regrettably, in the future, the battle for human and land rights will continue.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Here in Australia, the fight for Aboriginal self-determination will be especially difficult,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>given the national government's past and present paternalistic policies and unwillingness to

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<v Wilma Mankiller>work in equal partnership with Aboriginal people to resolve entrenched problems.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I have some faith, not everybody does, that if we can get a UN resolution passed supporting

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the rights of Indigenous people, that will help.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And there's some hope that a resolution that people have been working on for now over 30

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<v Wilma Mankiller>years will finally be passed when the United Nations convenes for its fall 2007 session

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<v Wilma Mankiller>in September.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Interestingly, two of the nations opposing the resolution have already signed a resolution

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<v Wilma Mankiller>in the United States and Australia.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And in the U.S., the future looks somewhat better for tribal people due in large part

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<v Wilma Mankiller>to the self-governance and self-determination efforts of tribal government, particularly

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<v Wilma Mankiller>during the past four decades.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>There's a great deal of historical evidence that Indigenous people simply do better when

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<v Wilma Mankiller>we have control of our own lives.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>In the case of my own people, after we were forcibly removed from the southeastern part

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<v Wilma Mankiller>of the United States, we have a lot of history to tell.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The United States was once a state of the state to Indian territory, now Oklahoma.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>We picked ourselves up and rebuilt our families, our communities, and our nation.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>We started some of the first schools west of the Mississippi, Indian or non-Indian, and

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<v Wilma Mankiller>built schools for the higher education of women.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>We printed our own newspapers in Cherokee and English and were more literate than our

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<v Wilma Mankiller>neighbors in adjoining states.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Then in the early 20th century, the federal government almost abolished the Cherokee nation.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>We lost our citizenship.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Again, Indigenous people simply do better when we have control over our own destiny.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Harvard University recently completed over a decade of comprehensive research, which

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<v Wilma Mankiller>has been published in a new and guardedly hopeful book entitled A State of Native Nations.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The research indicates that most of the social and economic indicators are moving in a positive

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<v Wilma Mankiller>direction.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Many tribal governments are strong, educational attainment levels are improving, and there

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<v Wilma Mankiller>is a cultural renaissance occurring in many tribal communities.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I think around the world there are a lot of conversations going on about what it means

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<v Wilma Mankiller>to be a traditional Indigenous person now and what it will mean in the future.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>In my view, it means being part of a group of people who possess some of the most valuable

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and ancient knowledge on the planet, a people who still have a direct relationship with

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and sense of responsibility.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Thank you.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I think it means being part of a community that faces oppression, poverty, and a staggering

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<v Wilma Mankiller>set of problems but finds many moments of grace and comfort in traditional stories,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>language, and ceremonies.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It means trusting our own thinking again.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And not only articulating our own vision of the future but having within our communities

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the skill sets and leadership ability to make our own vision a reality.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It means despite everything still being able to dream of a future in which the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>people of Australia and the world will support the human rights and

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<v Wilma Mankiller>self-determination of Aboriginal people. Land and resources can be colonized but

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<v Wilma Mankiller>dreams can never be colonized. It means networking and sharing traditional

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<v Wilma Mankiller>knowledge and best practices with indigenous communities all over the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>world using the iPhone, Blackberry, Myspace, YouTube and every other

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<v Wilma Mankiller>technological tool that becomes available to us. It means being a

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<v Wilma Mankiller>physician or a scientist or even an astronaut who will leave her

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<v Wilma Mankiller>footprints on the moon and then return home to participate in ceremonies that

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<v Wilma Mankiller>her people have held since the beginning of time. To be an indigenous person of the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>21st century means to pay attention to the Mohawk

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and the

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<v Wilma Mankiller>! proverb that reminds all of us to channel our anger, to not go around with

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<v Wilma Mankiller>just anger in our heart and be paralyzed into inaction by anger about the past or

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<v Wilma Mankiller>the totality of problems we face today. The Mohawk asked us to keep our view

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<v Wilma Mankiller>firmly fixed on the future as we have always done and they teach us that it's

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<v Wilma Mankiller>hard to see the future with tears in your in your eyes.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I am an indigenous woman of the 21st century and I'd like to leave you

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<v Wilma Mankiller>with the Mohawk proverb. It's hard to see the future with tears in your eyes.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I'd like to thank you and hope my being here in Australia for a week has helped

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<v Wilma Mankiller>eliminate any stereotypes you might have had about what a chief looks like. Thank

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<v Wilma Mankiller>you.

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<v Tracey Bunda>Did you want to sit and take questions? I love that. Okay, you want to sit and take questions? I love that.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Thank you.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Thank you.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Thank you.

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<v Tracey Bunda>We'll take some questions now. We have a microphone in the centre of the room here and we have one up the top right there.

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<v Tracey Bunda>Gentleman up the top.

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<v Audience>Yes.

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<v Audience>Chief Mankeller, it's very good to hear you. And I'm thinking about the role of indigenous people in the world that we live in.

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<v Audience>The role of indigenous people.

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<v Audience>I think one of the things I think about is having all these ecological problems.

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<v Audience>And for example, you talked about how the Cherokee had to move, you know, from the veritable paradise of the southeast of the U.S.

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<v Audience>and then moved to the dry, arid Oklahoma.

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<v Audience>And I'm thinking what Lovelock said today. That Europe would become a scrub and desert.

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<v Audience>Where are the white people, first world people, going to learn to live in this new world of

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<v Audience>environmental degradation?

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<v Audience>How are they going to learn that?

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<v Audience>So I think that the indigenous people will have a lot to teach the white people about

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<v Audience>how to live in the world, which the white people will have to learn.

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<v Audience>It won't be how indigenous people learn to live with white people, but how white people

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<v Audience>learn to live next to the land.

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<v Audience>How can indigenous people teach white people?

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I think that white people have to teach themselves.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>But I think that, I think what they can learn from conversation with indigenous people is

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<v Wilma Mankiller>that what I've found is that people who care about the earth and climate change, for some

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<v Wilma Mankiller>people it's almost like it's an intellectual exercise.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And what's different about...

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<v Wilma Mankiller>What's different about traditional indigenous people is that they really feel related in

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<v Wilma Mankiller>a deep and abiding way to the land, to all living things, to the stars.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's real.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's, I guess the best way I can explain it is that for my last book, I interviewed a

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Shoshone farmer, a woman in her 70s, and she talked about her fight, her lifelong fight

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<v Wilma Mankiller>to protect the land.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And she talked about doing it for her grandchildren.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It was just, she said this as casually as anything.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>She wasn't just talking about her biological grandchildren.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>She's talking about the grandchildren of plants, of animals.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And she meant that.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And so it's a completely different way of thinking.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>If you're distant from the land, and I think distant from your humanity, then you think,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>it's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I've, you know, supported and worked with a lot of environmentalists.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And after I interviewed this woman, I, for the first time, even though I've lived most of my life now in an indigenous community,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I understood for the first time the really deep differences in the way traditional indigenous people view the world and the larger society views the world.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And so I think that, I think there has to be an attempt by non-indigenous people to just rethink, rethink their place in the world

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<v Wilma Mankiller>and their responsibilities as human beings to every living thing.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And to understand, I just understand their place in the world.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Okay, thank you.

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<v Tracey Bunda>Another question from the top.

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<v Audience>Yes, I think you've probably half answered my question, but this may sound hopelessly idealistic,

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<v Audience>but should we all keep in our hearts a practical aspiration towards a time when some refinement of collective knowledge

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<v Audience>will allow a not so distant future when we can properly consider all humans as human beings

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<v Audience>as being indigenous to this planet?

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Well, we can do that.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I mean, I do believe that's possible, but we have to, there has to be a radical rethinking of the way many people in the world look at one another.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And a lot of people can't see past the pigment of someone's skin.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>They just can't get past that enough to see the human skin.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And the humanity of other people.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>That's probably the most difficult, the difficult part.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And I think that, I talked a bit about public perception.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>You rarely see public interest stories, human interest stories, about the everyday life of Aboriginal people in Australia.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Moms taking their kids to school, people doing normal everyday things, just the regular life.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>What you see is, is, is that, you know,

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<v Wilma Mankiller>it's a report on problems.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>But, so it's hard for people to see where there's common ground and what they have in common.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And that's certainly true in our country as well.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>There's always big stories about taxation issues or, you know, or some other issue.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>But our stories are never told, so people always see us as other.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>As somehow different.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And that's perpetuated by everyone.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>You know, look at the way the world now sees Arab people.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Not all Arab people are, condone terrorism and that sort of thing.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>But they, so people don't look beyond the stereotypes or the negative media reports.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And I think we have to do that.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's almost like, like people have a veil.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And that over their faces, it won't allow them to see one another, see each other's humanity.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>They just see the pigment of their skin.

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<v Tracey Bunda>Down the front and centre.

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<v Audience>My name's, my name's Ali.

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<v Audience>And I'm a white Wonga woman.

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<v Audience>I'm a very bad example of white assimilation.

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<v Audience>My people were moved off after Maralinga.

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<v Audience>But I've been doing some work with indigenous people in Victoria.

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<v Audience>And I'd just like to comment on the difference in population between indigenous people that are still left here in Australia.

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<v Audience>In Victoria there's less than, they make up 1% of the population.

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<v Audience>And they also own less than 1% of the land.

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<v Audience>And during what we called the Stolen Wealth Games, we had a protest in the middle of the city.

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<v Audience>White people, non-indigenous people and indigenous people.

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<v Audience>And we lit a sacred fire there.

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<v Audience>Because that is the, that is the spiritual way.

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<v Audience>And there's no other place for them to practice their religion.

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<v Audience>The police condoned it for some time, especially while the Commonwealth Games were on.

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<v Audience>But once they were over and the media stopped coming around.

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<v Audience>They treated us really poorly.

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<v Audience>And after 60 days, we maintained the fire for 60 days.

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<v Audience>And on the 60th day, we were told to put the fire out at midnight.

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<v Audience>Because we went a little bit longer than midnight.

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<v Audience>The police came in with great force.

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<v Audience>They were all Anglo police, 38 white men.

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<v Audience>And two huge trucks.

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<v Audience>Presumably to arrest us.

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<v Audience>And also a big water truck to put out a fire.

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<v Audience>Which was just embers by that.

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<v Audience>And they were all on the stage.

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<v Audience>They proceeded to beat women and children.

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<v Audience>But we'd been there for 60 days maintaining this fire.

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<v Audience>And we were too exhausted to fight.

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<v Audience>We never took anything to court.

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<v Audience>And so we viewed this as a form of genocide.

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<v Audience>And children are still being taken away here under different guises.

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<v Audience>Do you see genocide still existing for indigenous people in America?

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<v Audience>As I think that it's still happening here.

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<v Audience>Thank you.

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<v Audience>What's the question?

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<v Tracey Bunda>Does genocide still exist in America through stealing children and taking children away?

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Yes it does.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I think that it's not as overt as it was when the Wounded Knee Massacre occurred.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Or the Sand Creek Massacre occurred.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Or Cherokee people were dispossessed.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Dispossessed of their land.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And marched like cattle across several states.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's not that overt.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>But it's like a continual little dripping of policies and actions.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Both by the government and by individual people to chip away at tribal cultures.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Tribal value systems.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>To take tribal lands.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>To destroy tribal governments.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>So it's still occurring.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's just taken a different form.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And so, and I don't see that changing in the future.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And I don't see that changing until we can do as the gentleman suggested earlier.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Until people can understand and accept us.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And support us.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Rather than trying to destroy what rights and resources we have left.

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<v Tracey Bunda>One last question.

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<v Audience>I don't know if I can get up this high.

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<v Tracey Bunda>Can I take this off?

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<v Audience>Thank you.

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<v Audience>In your description about the power of the law.

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<v Audience>And the power of your survival.

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<v Audience>And the hope of it.

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<v Audience>Which I rejoice in.

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<v Audience>You described a strength which I think comes from your mindset.

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<v Audience>And your world view.

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<v Audience>Which I think is a very distinct cultural difference.

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<v Audience>It's not of skin.

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<v Audience>And it's not of everyday activities.

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<v Audience>But it's of a much deeper level.

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<v Audience>And the strength that you described of your culture.

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<v Audience>Is exactly the weakness of the culture that is dominant.

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<v Audience>And greatly outnumbered.

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<v Audience>And I think lurks as a shadow around everything that you do.

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<v Audience>And I'm wondering how it is you cope with an industrialized, commodified, financially driven culture.

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<v Audience>Which I think undermines everything that you stand for when you talk about the relational way of life.

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<v Audience>Where you're related to everything.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>How do you do it?

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<v Wilma Mankiller>It's very difficult.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>I think that's been a...

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<v Wilma Mankiller>For the tribes in the East.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>The eastern part of the United States.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Which were colonized earlier.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>They learned pretty early.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>Had to figure out pretty early.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>How to deal with the larger society around them.

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<v Wilma Mankiller>And maintain a sense of who they are.

573
00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:00.420
<v Wilma Mankiller>My husband's just reading a biography of Crazy Horse.

574
00:43:00.680 --> 00:43:03.040
<v Wilma Mankiller>Written by one of his tribal members.

575
00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:07.000
<v Wilma Mankiller>And they had a practice they call smile and nod.

576
00:43:07.620 --> 00:43:09.520
<v Wilma Mankiller>So when people would come to...

577
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.060
<v Wilma Mankiller>To try to destroy their religion.

578
00:43:13.180 --> 00:43:14.600
<v Wilma Mankiller>Or find their medicine bottles.

579
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:15.700
<v Wilma Mankiller>Or whatever.

580
00:43:15.820 --> 00:43:17.000
<v Wilma Mankiller>They would just smile and nod.

581
00:43:17.160 --> 00:43:18.700
<v Wilma Mankiller>And keep their practices going.

582
00:43:19.460 --> 00:43:21.780
<v Wilma Mankiller>And I think that among our people.

583
00:43:21.820 --> 00:43:23.120
<v Wilma Mankiller>Our people would put on suits.

584
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:24.700
<v Wilma Mankiller>And look like everybody else.

585
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:26.500
<v Wilma Mankiller>And around them.

586
00:43:26.580 --> 00:43:29.200
<v Wilma Mankiller>And go off to be educated in the same institutions.

587
00:43:29.540 --> 00:43:31.180
<v Wilma Mankiller>But they kept the culture.

588
00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:35.340
<v Wilma Mankiller>So I think they've had a lot of practice with doing that.

589
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:36.300
<v Wilma Mankiller>Having said that.

590
00:43:36.340 --> 00:43:37.600
<v Wilma Mankiller>I will say it's very difficult.

591
00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:39.860
<v Wilma Mankiller>When you have a message at home.

592
00:43:41.340 --> 00:43:41.820
<v Wilma Mankiller>That...

593
00:43:41.820 --> 00:43:42.620
<v Wilma Mankiller>And in your...

594
00:43:42.620 --> 00:43:44.180
<v Wilma Mankiller>In the more traditional communities.

595
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Wilma Mankiller>That you have a responsibility for one another.

596
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.520
<v Wilma Mankiller>You have a responsibility to not give up the rights to the land.

597
00:43:50.620 --> 00:43:54.060
<v Wilma Mankiller>You have a responsibility to make sure the treaties are upheld.

598
00:43:54.860 --> 00:43:55.780
<v Wilma Mankiller>And all that.

599
00:43:56.060 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Wilma Mankiller>And then you see on television.

600
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:02.180
<v Wilma Mankiller>The messages are to accumulate wealth.

601
00:44:02.460 --> 00:44:04.160
<v Wilma Mankiller>And to have great personal success.

602
00:44:04.560 --> 00:44:06.080
<v Wilma Mankiller>And only look out for yourself.

603
00:44:06.200 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Wilma Mankiller>It's very difficult.

604
00:44:07.780 --> 00:44:08.780
<v Wilma Mankiller>But you know.

605
00:44:08.780 --> 00:44:11.320
<v Wilma Mankiller>It's always surprising to me.

606
00:44:11.340 --> 00:44:14.140
<v Wilma Mankiller>How many people have held on to the values.

607
00:44:14.260 --> 00:44:16.020
<v Wilma Mankiller>We always remember a young man.

608
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Wilma Mankiller>Who was very bright.

609
00:44:19.080 --> 00:44:21.820
<v Wilma Mankiller>And we sent him off to Harvard Medical School.

610
00:44:22.020 --> 00:44:24.180
<v Wilma Mankiller>From one of our traditional communities.

611
00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:26.860
<v Wilma Mankiller>And he did well academically.

612
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.680
<v Wilma Mankiller>But he would call home constantly.

613
00:44:30.500 --> 00:44:31.540
<v Wilma Mankiller>And unfortunately.

614
00:44:31.680 --> 00:44:33.620
<v Wilma Mankiller>He dropped out and came home.

615
00:44:33.740 --> 00:44:36.200
<v Wilma Mankiller>Because the values of the other people.

616
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Wilma Mankiller>In the medical school were so different.

617
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.780
<v Wilma Mankiller>Than his own values.

618
00:44:41.220 --> 00:44:42.280
<v Wilma Mankiller>So it's not always easy.

619
00:44:42.860 --> 00:44:44.920
<v Wilma Mankiller>And I remember another young woman.

620
00:44:44.980 --> 00:44:47.580
<v Wilma Mankiller>That I met at a native science conference.

621
00:44:48.160 --> 00:44:51.340
<v Wilma Mankiller>Who said that she was at medical school as well.

622
00:44:51.700 --> 00:44:53.720
<v Wilma Mankiller>And she lived in a dorm with other women.

623
00:44:53.900 --> 00:44:54.940
<v Wilma Mankiller>And she said every morning.

624
00:44:55.240 --> 00:44:57.780
<v Wilma Mankiller>She was thinking of dropping out of medical school.

625
00:44:58.360 --> 00:44:59.960
<v Wilma Mankiller>And she said that every morning.

626
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Wilma Mankiller>She would get up and turn the shower up.

627
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:03.080
<v Wilma Mankiller>Real high.

628
00:45:03.380 --> 00:45:05.820
<v Wilma Mankiller>And would cry in the shower.

629
00:45:06.020 --> 00:45:07.540
<v Wilma Mankiller>And say I don't know how I can do that.

630
00:45:07.540 --> 00:45:09.900
<v Wilma Mankiller>She was going to medical school.

631
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:11.120
<v Wilma Mankiller>To go back home.

632
00:45:11.380 --> 00:45:14.160
<v Wilma Mankiller>And work for the Indian Health Service.

633
00:45:14.340 --> 00:45:15.480
<v Wilma Mankiller>Or work for her people.

634
00:45:15.700 --> 00:45:18.200
<v Wilma Mankiller>And everybody else was hoping to make a lot of money.

635
00:45:18.680 --> 00:45:22.900
<v Wilma Mankiller>And it was hard for her to find people she could relate to.

636
00:45:23.300 --> 00:45:25.140
<v Wilma Mankiller>She did finish medical school.

637
00:45:25.260 --> 00:45:26.440
<v Wilma Mankiller>And she has a physician now.

638
00:45:26.540 --> 00:45:28.840
<v Wilma Mankiller>Wonderful Navajo physician.

639
00:45:29.340 --> 00:45:34.100
<v Wilma Mankiller>So that's an everyday reality.

640
00:45:34.200 --> 00:45:37.380
<v Wilma Mankiller>Is the clash between the culture.

641
00:45:37.540 --> 00:45:38.720
<v Wilma Mankiller>I have two daughters.

642
00:45:38.980 --> 00:45:39.160
<v Wilma Mankiller>And.

643
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:41.100
<v Wilma Mankiller>When my daughter.

644
00:45:41.180 --> 00:45:42.400
<v Wilma Mankiller>They're both very attractive.

645
00:45:42.500 --> 00:45:43.160
<v Wilma Mankiller>Very beautiful.

646
00:45:43.600 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Wilma Mankiller>And when they were young.

647
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:45.680
<v Wilma Mankiller>People focused.

648
00:45:46.140 --> 00:45:47.100
<v Wilma Mankiller>All their attention.

649
00:45:47.220 --> 00:45:48.140
<v Wilma Mankiller>On how they looked.

650
00:45:48.340 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Wilma Mankiller>And not who they were.

651
00:45:49.520 --> 00:45:49.960
<v Wilma Mankiller>As people.

652
00:45:50.520 --> 00:45:51.940
<v Wilma Mankiller>All the women's magazines.

653
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:53.280
<v Wilma Mankiller>The larger culture.

654
00:45:53.460 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Wilma Mankiller>Around them.

655
00:45:54.860 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Wilma Mankiller>Places.

656
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:56.160
<v Wilma Mankiller>A high premium.

657
00:45:56.580 --> 00:45:57.000
<v Wilma Mankiller>On.

658
00:45:57.160 --> 00:45:58.180
<v Wilma Mankiller>Either what you possess.

659
00:45:58.900 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Wilma Mankiller>Or.

660
00:45:59.420 --> 00:46:00.520
<v Wilma Mankiller>What you look like.

661
00:46:00.620 --> 00:46:01.380
<v Wilma Mankiller>On the outside.

662
00:46:01.560 --> 00:46:02.340
<v Wilma Mankiller>And not who you are.

663
00:46:02.540 --> 00:46:03.420
<v Wilma Mankiller>As a person.

664
00:46:03.980 --> 00:46:04.820
<v Wilma Mankiller>And I think.

665
00:46:04.900 --> 00:46:05.680
<v Wilma Mankiller>In our communities.

666
00:46:06.020 --> 00:46:06.740
<v Wilma Mankiller>In the more traditional.

667
00:46:06.980 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Wilma Mankiller>Communities.

668
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:07.520
<v Wilma Mankiller>In our cities.

669
00:46:07.520 --> 00:46:12.440
<v Wilma Mankiller>there's still a much greater emphasis placed on who you are as a person.

670
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:17.900
<v Wilma Mankiller>And what we still manage to hold on to is that, it's not intact,

671
00:46:18.860 --> 00:46:23.000
<v Wilma Mankiller>but we've managed to hold on to is that older people are still well respected.

672
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.500
<v Wilma Mankiller>And in the society around us, at least in the U.S.,

673
00:46:26.500 --> 00:46:29.060
<v Wilma Mankiller>there's a much greater emphasis on youth.

674
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:36.460
<v Wilma Mankiller>And instead of the life experience of older people

675
00:46:36.460 --> 00:46:38.660
<v Wilma Mankiller>who are respected for their knowledge.

676
00:46:39.600 --> 00:46:40.620
<v Wilma Mankiller>But it's a continual battle.

677
00:46:41.220 --> 00:46:46.360
<v Tracey Bunda>Could you join with me again in thanking Chief William Wilmer Manker?

678
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:47.160
<v Tracey Bunda>Thank you.

