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<v John Gray>And I have the pleasure of chairing this session of the Adelaide Festival of Ideas.

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<v John Gray>It's also my pleasure to welcome all of you to this session,

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<v John Gray>especially to welcome Professor Nigel Rapport, who is our speaker for today.

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<v John Gray>In thinking about introducing Nigel, I thought, well,

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<v John Gray>why do I want to repeat the plain facts that are in the brochure?

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<v John Gray>So I'll let those plain facts speak for themselves,

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<v John Gray>as Nigel, as a distinguished scholar and anthropologist.

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<v John Gray>But for me, they do nothing to introduce what I call Nigel the individual.

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<v John Gray>I've chosen these words, Nigel the individual,

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<v John Gray>because for me they encapsulate, to paraphrase Miles Franklin, his brilliant career.

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<v John Gray>I share with Nigel the discipline of social anthropology,

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<v John Gray>a discipline that was founded on the ideas of culture,

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<v John Gray>culture, and society.

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<v John Gray>These ideas were deemed to be collective realities

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<v John Gray>that shaped, guided, constrained,

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<v John Gray>and even determined our actions and our ideas as human beings.

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<v John Gray>The concepts of culture and the concepts of society

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<v John Gray>became the explanations that anthropologists used

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<v John Gray>for the ideas and actions of individuals.

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<v John Gray>More than any other contemporary anthropologist,

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<v John Gray>Nigel has refuted the idea of culture and society

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<v John Gray>and has refused to submit to the tyranny of these ideas,

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<v John Gray>a tyranny that he would say denies the foundational creativity of the individual.

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<v John Gray>In the foreword to his latest book,

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<v John Gray>I Am Dynamite, an Alternative Anthropology of Power,

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<v John Gray>Michael Jackson writes in the foreword

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<v John Gray>that Nigel's work can be described as

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<v John Gray>a fascination with the presence and power of the individual,

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<v John Gray>a profound interest in the phenomena of uniqueness

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<v John Gray>in a plural world,

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<v John Gray>For Nigel, it is not the idea of the individual

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<v John Gray>that informs his work,

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<v John Gray>but rather the individual of ideas,

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<v John Gray>the individual of unique consciousness,

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<v John Gray>of unique action, energy, and will.

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<v John Gray>His is the individual whose vitality,

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<v John Gray>creative improvisations, and actions in everyday life

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<v John Gray>impart reality to society, to history,

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<v John Gray>and to the nation state.

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<v John Gray>And in the act of imparting this reality,

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<v John Gray>the individual transgresses.

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<v John Gray>He transcends them.

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<v John Gray>For me, these are the themes that frame Nigel's own

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<v John Gray>transcendent individuality as an anthropologist,

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<v John Gray>and that I suspect he will weave into today's talk,

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<v John Gray>which is entitled

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<v John Gray>People of the Air and the City of Global Guest.

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<v John Gray>I'm looking forward to it very much,

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<v John Gray>and welcome to Nigel.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Thank you very much for coming

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<v Nigel Rapport>and spending your lunch hour here with me.

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<v Nigel Rapport>My title, People of the Air and the City of Global Guests,

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<v Nigel Rapport>People of the Air derives from a slur

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<v Nigel Rapport>favored by the Nazis.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Luftmension.

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<v Nigel Rapport>People of the air, people of smoke,

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<v Nigel Rapport>are those people who have no roots,

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<v Nigel Rapport>will not or cannot take root.

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<v Nigel Rapport>They remain, as George Steiner phrased it,

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<v Nigel Rapport>guests among others.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The ideal types of Luftmension,

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<v Nigel Rapport>of people of the air,

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<v Nigel Rapport>There were, of course, Jews and gypsies.

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<v Nigel Rapport>In this, the Nazis could be said to follow the philosopher Hegel,

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<v Nigel Rapport>who saw in such people an awesome pathology.

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<v Nigel Rapport>In leaving the Garden of Eden, the pastures of Abraham, the land of Israel,

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<v Nigel Rapport>the Jews had, according to Hegel,

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<v Nigel Rapport>entered into exile from their natural human place in the world,

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<v Nigel Rapport>their embodying of an unconscious organic and singular totality with a place.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Here was an alienation from self and from humanity,

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<v Nigel Rapport>from love, trust, family, and community.

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<v Nigel Rapport>In choosing to house themselves, not in land, but in their Sefer Torah,

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<v Nigel Rapport>their book of law,

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<v Nigel Rapport>they had perpetrated their suicidal renunciation from the family of nations.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The talk I'm going to give today is a kind of paean to Luftmenschlichkeit.

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<v Nigel Rapport>I want to argue for an appreciation and an education

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<v Nigel Rapport>of global guesthood,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and for the city as a site where an embodiment of global guesthood

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<v Nigel Rapport>might not take root, but be secured and enshrined.

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<v Nigel Rapport>In four parts, my talk revolves around the key terms of guest, city, story, and irony,

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<v Nigel Rapport>as these appear in the writings of luminaries such as George Steiner, Robert Park, Paul Ricoeur, and Richard Rorty.

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<v Nigel Rapport>I want to do just that.

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<v Nigel Rapport>I want to bring justice to a particular conception of human identity,

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<v Nigel Rapport>as that which is born in and of movement, and manifested in multiplicity.

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<v Nigel Rapport>And I look to movement and multiplicity as ideal ways to measure just procedures of state,

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<v Nigel Rapport>to formulate ideas of justice and just relations between human beings.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Justice, I want to say, is about ensuring the free movement

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<v Nigel Rapport>that is fundamental to human being and becoming,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and to its potential for multiplicity.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Part one, George Steiner and the Jewish guest.

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<v Nigel Rapport>For George Steiner, the shock waves of the Dreyfus affair still reverberate.

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<v Nigel Rapport>In 1894, Albert Dreyfus, an officer in the French army and an assimilated Jew,

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<v Nigel Rapport>was accused of treason against the French state.

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<v Nigel Rapport>And even when the ridiculousness of the charges had been revealed,

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<v Nigel Rapport>it was felt better by many in the French establishment, and also the anti-establishment,

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<v Nigel Rapport>that the French government was not willing to accept the charges.

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<v Nigel Rapport>That he be sacrificed for the greater good of France.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Better the individual Jew be scapegoated,

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<v Nigel Rapport>than the good name of the Christian nation-state be compromised.

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<v Nigel Rapport>For George Steiner, the Dreyfus affair passed judgment on communitarianism.

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<v Nigel Rapport>There is no nation, he wrote, no polis, no church, no ethnic community,

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<v Nigel Rapport>that is not worth leaving.

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<v Nigel Rapport>There's no interest, no caste, profession, or social class,

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<v Nigel Rapport>not worth resigning from.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The reason being that every nation will end up behaving unacceptably,

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<v Nigel Rapport>will sacrifice a Dreyfus, while every church will excommunicate a Spinoza.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Patriotism will override justice.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It must do so, because communitarianism,

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<v Nigel Rapport>that is, the ideology of discrete national, ethnic, or religious communities,

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<v Nigel Rapport>tied by blood, homogeneous, sharing a common birthright of culture, tradition, or land,

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<v Nigel Rapport>this notion entails the sleep of reason.

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<v Nigel Rapport>An overriding loyalty to community entails an abstention from free thought,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and also from a disinterested pursuit of justice.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The nation-state, for instance, is founded on myth,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and perpetrated by lies, mendacity, and mystique, and by guns.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Over the past two centuries, the virulent madness of nationalism

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<v Nigel Rapport>has edged humanity ever closer towards self-destruction.

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<v Nigel Rapport>A thinking person,

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<v Nigel Rapport>George Steiner concludes, cannot be a good patriot.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It's Jean-Jacques Rousseau, the philosopher,

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<v Nigel Rapport>who provides Steiner with a name for the habit, or the habitus,

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<v Nigel Rapport>that he would set against communitarianism.

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<v Nigel Rapport>And he calls it humanism.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Humanism, says Rousseau, is a theft committed on la patrie.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Humanism replaces relativities and local contingencies

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<v Nigel Rapport>and an aspiring to global truths.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Anthropology, the name of my discipline,

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<v Nigel Rapport>the writing of the human,

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<v Nigel Rapport>derived from Immanuel Kant,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and was part of his vision of what he called a cosmopolis

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<v Nigel Rapport>that might combine warring localisms,

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<v Nigel Rapport>in a polity that represented the earth entire,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and that looked out from that globe to the cosmos beyond.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The enlightened notions,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and socialism, a separation of church and state.

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<v Nigel Rapport>However, George Steiner wants to situate this humanist habit,

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<v Nigel Rapport>or habitus, the loyalty to truth and to living authentically

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<v Nigel Rapport>He calls it Jewish.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Obviously, there's a certain irony in this appellation,

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<v Nigel Rapport>giving the above diatribe against tribalist notions.

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<v Nigel Rapport>But Steiner wants to draw attention to certain practices

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<v Nigel Rapport>of being and doing that he feels have a long historical provenance.

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<v Nigel Rapport>And as with the Nazis, Hegel and others before them

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<v Nigel Rapport>have long been stereotyped as Jewish.

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<v Nigel Rapport>So, says Steiner, let us invert the slur

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<v Nigel Rapport>of Luftmenschlicher Jiddischkeit.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Homeland for the Jews was a text, Steiner begins.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Even before the diaspora and the exile from the land of Israel,

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<v Nigel Rapport>in essential ways Jewish identity was intrinsically connected

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<v Nigel Rapport>with knowing and observing the book of law,

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<v Nigel Rapport>reading and being answerable to it.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The book, as Heinrich Heine put it, was the land of his fathers.

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<v Nigel Rapport>This affected a certain continuity in Jewish life,

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<v Nigel Rapport>of the latter diaspora.

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<v Nigel Rapport>One remained at home, in transit across different lands,

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<v Nigel Rapport>because one enjoyed a homecoming,

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<v Nigel Rapport>Each rereading of the sacred text was a return home.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The text was also a living text,

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<v Nigel Rapport>what Steiner calls a real presence.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It contained a living truth,

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<v Nigel Rapport>such that each new generation and each new reading,

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<v Nigel Rapport>Now, in underwriting an identity not on the basis of territory,

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<v Nigel Rapport>or the fixity of any earthbound relationship,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and to a truth which a nomad could carry within him or her,

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<v Nigel Rapport>with truth,

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<v Nigel Rapport>when embodies and idealizes homeliness, belonging,

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<v Nigel Rapport>Steiner wants to depict this,

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<v Nigel Rapport>wants us to understand this,

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<v Nigel Rapport>as the habit or the habitus of a guest.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The humaneness of the diasporic Jew,

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<v Nigel Rapport>derived from the fact that he or she was too weak

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<v Nigel Rapport>to make others as wretched as themselves.

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<v Nigel Rapport>In the Jew's resilience, however,

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<v Nigel Rapport>is a pointer towards the dignity of guests.

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<v Nigel Rapport>As guests, guests of one another,

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<v Nigel Rapport>guests of our planet, guests of life,

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<v Nigel Rapport>we lodge our identities, our bodies, our relationships,

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<v Nigel Rapport>in time, in moments of being,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and not in space or place or land.

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<v Nigel Rapport>By conceiving of themselves as mutual guests on a small planet,

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<v Nigel Rapport>human beings can escape the mutual destruction

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<v Nigel Rapport>Part two.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The medieval European adage has it

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<v Nigel Rapport>Robert Park, who was a founder member

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<v Nigel Rapport>The city is the natural habitat of civilized man.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Civilized person.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Part of what made the city an ingenious social and moral milieu

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<v Nigel Rapport>for Robert Park, and bearing the future within it,

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<v Nigel Rapport>was its bringing together of very different kinds of people.

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<v Nigel Rapport>However transitory, casual,

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<v Nigel Rapport>instable, and fortuitous may be their meetings,

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<v Nigel Rapport>the contacting and contracting of difference

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<v Nigel Rapport>Now, commentators since Robert Park's day

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<v Nigel Rapport>have drawn attention to aspects of wishful thinking

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<v Nigel Rapport>in his depiction of urban futures.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The coming together of different people,

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<v Nigel Rapport>different social and cultural communities in the city

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<v Nigel Rapport>as to civilizing tendencies.

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<v Nigel Rapport>That is,

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<v Nigel Rapport>in dialectical relationship with the diversity of the city,

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<v Nigel Rapport>its housing migrants from around the world,

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<v Nigel Rapport>there emerges a piling up of boundaries,

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<v Nigel Rapport>political, ritual, residential, economic, social and cultural,

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<v Nigel Rapport>which people feel to be vital to their sense of personal and collective identity.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Difference in the city is thus experienced oftentimes

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<v Nigel Rapport>not as a mixing, but as an insistence on purity and inheritance,

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<v Nigel Rapport>distinction, discrimination and exclusivity.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Notwithstanding, there does seem to me to be potential in the city

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<v Nigel Rapport>for taking forward an enlightenment vision

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<v Nigel Rapport>of cosmopolitanism, freedom and civility.

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<v Nigel Rapport>There is, as Iris Young puts it,

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<v Nigel Rapport>an incomprehensibility to the city.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It's a kind of chaosmopolis.

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<v Nigel Rapport>And there's a paradoxical proclivity in the city

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<v Nigel Rapport>to encompass or stage inexhaustible and surprising novelty and difference.

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<v Nigel Rapport>This is how Young elaborates on her point.

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<v Nigel Rapport>A place of many places, the city folds over on itself

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<v Nigel Rapport>in so many layers and relationships that it's incomprehensible.

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<v Nigel Rapport>You can't encompass it.

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<v Nigel Rapport>One cannot take it in.

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<v Nigel Rapport>One never feels as though there's nothing new and interesting to explore,

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<v Nigel Rapport>no new and interesting people to meet.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It is perhaps a matter of education.

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<v Nigel Rapport>But in the social and cultural multiplicity of the city,

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<v Nigel Rapport>there are morals to be drawn concerning the capacities,

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<v Nigel Rapport>the benefits and the rights of all people,

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<v Nigel Rapport>every individual, to be themselves multiple.

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<v Nigel Rapport>An education would be to comprehend

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<v Nigel Rapport>that the multiplicity of the city,

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<v Nigel Rapport>its societies and cultures, traditions, cosmologies and moralities,

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<v Nigel Rapport>occupations and congregations, materials, moods and styles,

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<v Nigel Rapport>this multiplicity is an analogue of the creativity

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<v Nigel Rapport>and the potential to construct difference.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Inherent in each individual human being.

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<v Nigel Rapport>An education might be to see the city as an analogue of the creative self.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Social and cultural multiplicity is, after all,

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<v Nigel Rapport>a consequence of individual creativity.

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<v Nigel Rapport>In seeing the multiplicity around them in the city

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<v Nigel Rapport>as their multiplicity, as our multiplicity,

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<v Nigel Rapport>as a manifestation of a version, a fragment,

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<v Nigel Rapport>of the potential for difference that we individuals contain within ourselves,

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<v Nigel Rapport>as something that we could have thought up,

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<v Nigel Rapport>as something that we could enact in life.

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<v Nigel Rapport>An attitude of ownership, of generosity, of irony,

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<v Nigel Rapport>I believe, can be encouraged among all citizens.

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<v Nigel Rapport>One says, as an inhabitant of the city,

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<v Nigel Rapport>all this difference is a manifestation of me.

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<v Nigel Rapport>All this difference around me is a manifestation of the human.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Some parts of me I might like more than others.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Some parts might seem childish or foreign,

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<v Nigel Rapport>or undignified.

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<v Nigel Rapport>But I should not despise myself or be intolerant.

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<v Nigel Rapport>I should not deny what I might become or have been.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The multiplicity around me in the city, the otherness,

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<v Nigel Rapport>manifests my right to construe myself differently in future.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The multiplicity fractures any notion that I, humanity,

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<v Nigel Rapport>can or should be defined in terms of singularities.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Except, that is, for my singular human capacity

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<v Nigel Rapport>to create myself,

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<v Nigel Rapport>to become,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and to go on doing so.

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<v Nigel Rapport>A way of rephrasing what I've been saying

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<v Nigel Rapport>is to say that I could be said in a city

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<v Nigel Rapport>to be a guest of myself,

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<v Nigel Rapport>a guest of my creative capacities.

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<v Nigel Rapport>My body, my life, plays host to a multiplicity of ways

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<v Nigel Rapport>in which I choose to define myself

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<v Nigel Rapport>and live out an identity over time and place.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The generosity I then extend to others' choices of how to be

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<v Nigel Rapport>is a generosity that I really extend to myself.

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<v Nigel Rapport>A generosity which my body, my life, extends to my creativity,

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<v Nigel Rapport>to play host in this one body to different me's.

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<v Nigel Rapport>To the different me's that can be construed at different moments.

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<v Nigel Rapport>So the truth of my identity, the true me,

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<v Nigel Rapport>is not this or that manifestation or version.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The truth of my identity is my capacity,

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<v Nigel Rapport>my potential, my right to keep on creating different me's.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Part 3.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Paul Ricoeur and the storied nature of identity.

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<v Nigel Rapport>In his article,

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<v Nigel Rapport>Reflections on a new ethos for Europe,

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<v Nigel Rapport>Paul Ricoeur argues that in the European Union

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<v Nigel Rapport>there's an opportunity to institute a form of polity

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<v Nigel Rapport>which does not replicate the structures of the nation state.

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<v Nigel Rapport>The issue is one of imagination.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Imagining a kind of post-economic,

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<v Nigel Rapport>which is ineluctably polyglot,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and which eschews the symbols of both sovereignty and homogeneity,

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<v Nigel Rapport>as well as the structures underpinning these,

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<v Nigel Rapport>The key concept which Paul Ricoeur offers

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<v Nigel Rapport>We are all entangled in stories, he explains.

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<v Nigel Rapport>From those told to us, by others, from childhood on,

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<v Nigel Rapport>to those we tell about ourselves, to ourselves and to others.

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<v Nigel Rapport>These are both first order stories,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and second and third order stories.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Stories containing stories, and stories about stories.

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<v Nigel Rapport>This telling and receiving of stories,

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<v Nigel Rapport>forgetting and reviving of stories,

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<v Nigel Rapport>mingling and denying of stories,

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<v Nigel Rapport>produces important narrative identities.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Individuals know themselves, we know ourselves,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and we're known by other people.

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<v Nigel Rapport>In significant respects, by the stories which we know,

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<v Nigel Rapport>Social groups may also be represented,

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<v Nigel Rapport>by the stories shared in their collective traditions.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Furthermore, if it were recognized

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<v Nigel Rapport>that the individual and group,

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<v Nigel Rapport>cultural, ethnic, religious and national identities,

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<v Nigel Rapport>are in important respects matters of recounted story,

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<v Nigel Rapport>not of fixed structures of genetic or historic

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<v Nigel Rapport>or revelational realities,

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<v Nigel Rapport>then we might move to an appreciation of stories

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<v Nigel Rapport>that are not our own.

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<v Nigel Rapport>We could take responsibility in imagination and sympathy

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<v Nigel Rapport>for the stories of others, of strangers and of enemies.

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<v Nigel Rapport>We already do this for fictional characters,

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<v Nigel Rapport>with whom we provisionally identify in our reading of novels,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and we do this for ourselves,

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<v Nigel Rapport>when we retell our stories and reconfigure our pasts

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<v Nigel Rapport>for present purposes and contexts.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It might be the inalienable,

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<v Nigel Rapport>character of life experience,

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<v Nigel Rapport>that we cannot directly share the lives of others,

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<v Nigel Rapport>we can't get inside others' bodies,

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<v Nigel Rapport>but we might imagine our way into their lives

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<v Nigel Rapport>through an exchange of life stories.

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<v Nigel Rapport>This is a difficult and ethical labor.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It calls for generosity and irony and selflessness,

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<v Nigel Rapport>as well as an imaginative replacing of self

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<v Nigel Rapport>in other experiences and lives,

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<v Nigel Rapport>but it can be socially and morally rewarding

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<v Nigel Rapport>and practically vital.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Similarly, we can and must be generous with our own stories,

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<v Nigel Rapport>allow them to be retold by others as well as by ourselves,

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<v Nigel Rapport>and not be rigid in our conception of them.

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<v Nigel Rapport>We must not allow founding historical events

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<v Nigel Rapport>which underlie the stories

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<v Nigel Rapport>to freeze the identities conjured up in the latter stories.

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<v Nigel Rapport>We don't abandon important historical landmarks

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<v Nigel Rapport>in our identities.

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<v Nigel Rapport>We go on commemorating and celebrating them in story,

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<v Nigel Rapport>but we don't construe them as something immutable

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<v Nigel Rapport>or incommunicable or incomprehensible.

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<v Nigel Rapport>We allow their plural reading.

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<v Nigel Rapport>So different narrative recountings

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<v Nigel Rapport>of the same historical events

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<v Nigel Rapport>should not be seen as irreverent.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It's not irreverent to reconstruct in story

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<v Nigel Rapport>these historical events.

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<v Nigel Rapport>A competitive diversity of tellings

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<v Nigel Rapport>even honors the richness of the original event.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Now Ricoeur is calling for a sophisticated

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<v Nigel Rapport>as well as a sophisticated narrative.

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<v Nigel Rapport>There's a generous and ironic self-knowledge here,

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<v Nigel Rapport>but the stakes are high.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Exchanging stories and partaking in a respectful

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<v Nigel Rapport>Ricoeur calls narrative hospitality.

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<v Nigel Rapport>By way of narrative hospitality,

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<v Nigel Rapport>one plays host to other stories as well as one's own.

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<v Nigel Rapport>One gives over one's stories as guests

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<v Nigel Rapport>to another person's retelling.

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<v Nigel Rapport>One plays guest in one's own life

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<v Nigel Rapport>and host in another's life.

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<v Nigel Rapport>One practices irony with regard to what one cherishes most.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Richard Rorty and the Liberal Education of Irony.

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<v Nigel Rapport>I'm under no illusions, nevertheless,

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<v Nigel Rapport>concerning the revolutionary change in sensibility

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<v Nigel Rapport>which irony as an abiding attitude amounts to.

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<v Nigel Rapport>the shift from religiosity to secularism

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<v Nigel Rapport>has proceeded over a number of centuries

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<v Nigel Rapport>and is still ongoing and is periodically beset

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<v Nigel Rapport>and multiplicities of identity

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<v Nigel Rapport>might be expected to be equally sluggish.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It's for this reason that education plays a special part

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<v Nigel Rapport>in inculcating what Rorty calls

419
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<v Nigel Rapport>a liberal citizenry of global guests.

420
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<v Nigel Rapport>That is, individuals who assume an ironic stance

421
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<v Nigel Rapport>with regard to the storied nature of identity,

422
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<v Nigel Rapport>their own as well as others.

423
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<v Nigel Rapport>It's not, as critics have claimed,

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<v Nigel Rapport>that such liberal theorizing posits the natural existence

425
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<v Nigel Rapport>of an abstract individual

426
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<v Nigel Rapport>who is beyond any definite cultural identity or inheritance,

427
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<v Nigel Rapport>but that this is an ideal actor,

428
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<v Nigel Rapport>it's an ideal actor of this kind of abstract individual

429
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<v Nigel Rapport>which a liberal education sets out to encourage.

430
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<v Nigel Rapport>In other words, liberal education sets out to encourage

431
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<v Nigel Rapport>a kind of transcendence above any one tradition or perspective,

432
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<v Nigel Rapport>and that this can be taught and aspired to,

433
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<v Nigel Rapport>instilling irony and doubt concerning any timeless verities

434
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<v Nigel Rapport>beyond the human individual ability to keep on creating

435
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<v Nigel Rapport>and experimenting with such verities.

436
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<v Nigel Rapport>Education in and for a liberal democracy

437
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<v Nigel Rapport>sets out to achieve a number of things.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It seeks to place the individual in a position

439
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<v Nigel Rapport>where he or she is able to criticize, select,

440
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<v Nigel Rapport>and move between different stories.

441
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<v Nigel Rapport>That is, move between the values and the rules

442
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<v Nigel Rapport>and the practices of different cultural communities.

443
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<v Nigel Rapport>A liberal education sets out to provide each individual citizen

444
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<v Nigel Rapport>with a transcultural method and knowledge,

445
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<v Nigel Rapport>a rationality whereby each can subject

446
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<v Nigel Rapport>those cultural expressions to searching and ongoing scrutiny.

447
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<v Nigel Rapport>Education liberates the individual from what John Stuart Mill called

448
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<v Nigel Rapport>the despotism of custom,

449
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<v Nigel Rapport>and seeks to overcome the tyranny of a passive individual consciousness

450
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<v Nigel Rapport>and imagination constrained by a lack of knowledge

451
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<v Nigel Rapport>of cultural variety, alternative, process, and choice.

452
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<v Nigel Rapport>Taught irony, individuals may free themselves

453
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<v Nigel Rapport>from the contingency of particular cultural traditions.

454
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<v Nigel Rapport>They may pursue their own life trajectories,

455
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<v Nigel Rapport>their own individual life projects.

456
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<v Nigel Rapport>The endpoint of a liberal education

457
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<v Nigel Rapport>is not the maintenance of distinct cultural traditions,

458
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<v Nigel Rapport>but the fulfillment of individual citizens.

459
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<v Nigel Rapport>Citizens free to choose their stories,

460
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<v Nigel Rapport>or a variety of these at once or over time,

461
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<v Nigel Rapport>and thus to develop their own intellectual and emotional capabilities.

462
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<v Nigel Rapport>Individuals free to practice stories and invent their own,

463
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<v Nigel Rapport>with as much self-determination

464
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<v Nigel Rapport>as does not interfere with the freedom of others.

465
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<v Nigel Rapport>In all cases, education is geared towards facilitating

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<v Nigel Rapport>individuals' movement,

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<v Nigel Rapport>both the cognitive movement,

468
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<v Nigel Rapport>to self-fulfillment,

469
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<v Nigel Rapport>to making the best of themselves,

470
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<v Nigel Rapport>to creating their best selves as they see fit,

471
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<v Nigel Rapport>and the social movement,

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<v Nigel Rapport>to affiliating with or making the cultural communities of their choice.

473
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<v Nigel Rapport>These will be personal communities,

474
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<v Nigel Rapport>not ascribed communities.

475
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<v Nigel Rapport>They will be achieved communities,

476
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<v Nigel Rapport>selected and maintained on the basis of voluntary contacts and contracts.

477
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<v Nigel Rapport>This privileging of movement has a dual logic.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Firstly, it's an individual's own interests

479
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<v Nigel Rapport>to be as free to move between polities,

480
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<v Nigel Rapport>between voluntary associations and communities,

481
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<v Nigel Rapport>between behavioral contracts,

482
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<v Nigel Rapport>between perceptions and points of view,

483
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<v Nigel Rapport>beliefs, values and meanings.

484
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<v Nigel Rapport>It's an individual's interest to be as free to move as they see fit,

485
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<v Nigel Rapport>because such voluntary movement

486
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<v Nigel Rapport>is both an instantiation of their creative construction of identity

487
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<v Nigel Rapport>and also the medium or the means

488
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<v Nigel Rapport>by which this creativity continues to fuel itself.

489
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<v Nigel Rapport>It's through movement, both cognitive and physical,

490
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<v Nigel Rapport>that the individual accrues a sense of self and of world

491
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<v Nigel Rapport>and continues to have these senses develop and change.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Secondly, it's in the interests of liberal democracy

493
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<v Nigel Rapport>that individuals be free to move

494
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<v Nigel Rapport>and continue to practice movement,

495
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<v Nigel Rapport>because the more this takes place

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<v Nigel Rapport>and the more diverse identities

497
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<v Nigel Rapport>which an individual thereby accrues,

498
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<v Nigel Rapport>the less likely that an imperative

499
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<v Nigel Rapport>or singular or essential status

500
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<v Nigel Rapport>as member of this closed collectivity or that

501
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<v Nigel Rapport>will be able to be imposed on the individual by others

502
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<v Nigel Rapport>or will feel appropriate to ourselves.

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<v Nigel Rapport>A brief conclusion.

504
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<v Nigel Rapport>For multiplicity to flourish,

505
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<v Nigel Rapport>for a reciprocality in role-playing,

506
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<v Nigel Rapport>a mutuality in guesthood to be guaranteed,

507
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<v Nigel Rapport>there must be certain structures and procedures

508
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<v Nigel Rapport>and institutions of justice and law and education

509
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<v Nigel Rapport>which exist above all this sway,

510
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<v Nigel Rapport>above the flux and the fluidities of identity.

511
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<v Nigel Rapport>We need certain procedures of justice

512
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<v Nigel Rapport>which guarantee the existence of movement,

513
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<v Nigel Rapport>even though it does not circumscribe the direction of movement.

514
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<v Nigel Rapport>And which, if necessary,

515
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<v Nigel Rapport>regulates the possible expression of identity.

516
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<v Nigel Rapport>The multiplicities of identity are guaranteed legitimacy

517
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<v Nigel Rapport>to the extent that they do not preclude

518
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<v Nigel Rapport>the expression or existence of others.

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<v Nigel Rapport>It seems to me that the city might enshrine

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<v Nigel Rapport>a set of procedures conceived of as distinct from multiplicity

521
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<v Nigel Rapport>which ensures and regulates the diverse expression

522
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<v Nigel Rapport>of storied difference and also its momentariness.

523
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<v Nigel Rapport>That is, guarantees us the right to move

524
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<v Nigel Rapport>between multiple identities and to create anew.

525
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<v Nigel Rapport>Conceived of as a kind of procedural apparatus of arbitration

526
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<v Nigel Rapport>above the sway of particular substantive identities,

527
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<v Nigel Rapport>it's my hope that notions of common humanity,

528
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<v Nigel Rapport>common individuality, common urbanity,

529
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<v Nigel Rapport>and an embodiment of these in a just democratic forum

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<v Nigel Rapport>can be assured by an urban polity such as Adelaide.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Thank you.

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<v John Gray>Well, thank you very much, Nigel.

533
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<v John Gray>We have time for questions from the floor.

534
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<v John Gray>There is a microphone back there and there's a microphone here

535
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<v John Gray>if anybody wants to ask some questions of Nigel.

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<v John Gray>Yes, please.

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<v Audience>From, in my view, education in Australia,

538
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<v Audience>in general, is less liberal as we go along.

539
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<v Audience>Have you got any comment on that?

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<v Nigel Rapport>I'm not an expert on Australian education.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Maybe you can tell me in what ways you think it's less liberal as it goes along.

542
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<v Audience>Well, business is having a lot more pressure,

543
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<v Audience>putting a lot more pressure on subjects.

544
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<v Audience>I'm out of teaching at the moment,

545
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<v Audience>but the moderate amount of teaching I did do,

546
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<v Audience>I did see a big change in the way that curriculums were formulated.

547
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<v Audience>And according to what you're saying,

548
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<v Audience>this could be quite a worrying fact.

549
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<v Nigel Rapport>In my experience in educational institutions,

550
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<v Nigel Rapport>there's always a kind of command economy of the institution

551
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<v Nigel Rapport>or the management of that institution

552
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<v Nigel Rapport>which wants to see a certain template being represented

553
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<v Nigel Rapport>in every instantiation of education in that institution.

554
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<v Nigel Rapport>But also, going along with that, if you like, management,

555
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<v Nigel Rapport>if you like, students speak of what the institution should be about

556
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<v Nigel Rapport>or what education should include,

557
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<v Nigel Rapport>going along with that is also the individual teacher.

558
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<v Nigel Rapport>And I know from my experience that,

559
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<v Nigel Rapport>from public school onward, private school onwards,

560
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<v Nigel Rapport>that there are always individual teachers

561
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<v Nigel Rapport>that I've been able to look to as mentors,

562
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<v Nigel Rapport>people who have embodied a kind of what I would describe

563
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<v Nigel Rapport>as liberal ethos in their educational style and content.

564
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<v Nigel Rapport>And they stand out, maybe,

565
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<v Nigel Rapport>because of their insistence on not giving way

566
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<v Nigel Rapport>to the kind of management institutionalism

567
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<v Nigel Rapport>that maybe every educational organization is prone to.

568
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<v Nigel Rapport>So, management speak might say one thing,

569
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<v Nigel Rapport>and Australian education might be pushed towards a certain direction

570
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<v Nigel Rapport>by the institutions that set out to determine it.

571
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<v Nigel Rapport>And I think that's a very important point,

572
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<v Nigel Rapport>in what the education might be.

573
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<v Nigel Rapport>But I hope that that doesn't circumscribe the possibilities

574
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<v Nigel Rapport>of individual liberal teachers still being able to inculcate

575
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<v Nigel Rapport>in certain pupils who are able to hear

576
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<v Nigel Rapport>a sense of the capacity to move, to fulfill themselves,

577
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<v Nigel Rapport>to ironize that I've been trying to enunciate.

578
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<v Audience>I hope so, too.

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<v Audience>Thank you very much.

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<v Audience>I have a great deal of sympathy for your use of recur

581
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<v Audience>and the category of stories and narrative identity and so on.

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<v Audience>It seems to me, though, that part of what you're doing is...

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<v Audience>Well, if I put it a slightly different way,

584
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<v Audience>how do you draw the limits on the role of stories or narrative?

585
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<v Audience>You said in your fourth part

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<v Audience>that you still want to keep the superstructure of justice

587
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<v Audience>and institutions and that sort of thing.

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<v Audience>A lot of what...

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<v Audience>It seems to me that a lot of what people who are using these ideas

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<v Audience>of stories and narrative and so on are doing

591
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<v Audience>are critiquing the standard story that liberalism tells

592
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<v Audience>about these institutions.

593
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<v Audience>So, on the one hand, my question is,

594
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<v Audience>how do you draw the limits on stories such that those institutions,

595
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<v Audience>those institutions have a veracity beyond our stories?

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<v Audience>Because, after all, and I guess this is the second part,

597
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<v Audience>going to your discussion of communitarianism at the beginning,

598
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<v Audience>there are lots of stories that are being told

599
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<v Audience>that we don't actually want to participate in,

600
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<v Audience>stories that are being told by al-Qaeda

601
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<v Audience>and those who did the bombing in London.

602
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<v Audience>They're stories that we want to stop, as it were.

603
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<v Audience>So, you know, I have a great sort of emotional resonance

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<v Audience>with that.

605
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<v Audience>I think it's not just with the idea of irony and so on,

606
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<v Audience>but there's a point where I want to say,

607
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<v Audience>well, you know, I've had enough irony.

608
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<v Audience>I want to be able to draw limits and say, you know,

609
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<v Audience>my human rights are not one of those things

610
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<v Audience>that can be viewed ironically.

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<v Nigel Rapport>Yeah. Thanks. That's a great question.

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<v Nigel Rapport>And it's an old liberal conundrum.

613
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<v Nigel Rapport>I want to say that the limits...

614
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<v Nigel Rapport>And I tried to say this in brief in the paper.

615
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<v Nigel Rapport>I both want to establish that kind of freedom

616
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<v Nigel Rapport>to create a storied identity

617
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<v Nigel Rapport>and not to limit its expression,

618
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<v Nigel Rapport>except to the extent that that expression

619
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<v Nigel Rapport>would limit the future expression of a storied identity.

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<v Nigel Rapport>I don't think it can be bettered from the version

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<v Nigel Rapport>that John Stuart Mill...

622
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<v Nigel Rapport>made of this conundrum in the 19th century,

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<v Nigel Rapport>that we should be free to express ourselves

624
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<v Nigel Rapport>to the extent that we don't interrupt the freedom

625
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<v Nigel Rapport>of other people to express ourselves,

626
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<v Nigel Rapport>and maybe to the extent that we don't interrupt

627
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<v Nigel Rapport>the possibility of ourselves being free

628
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<v Nigel Rapport>in the future to express ourselves.

629
00:34:36.240 --> 00:34:38.220
<v Nigel Rapport>In other words, choices that we make now,

630
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.340
<v Nigel Rapport>choices of storied identity, choices of community,

631
00:34:42.120 --> 00:34:45.080
<v Nigel Rapport>should not restrict our possibilities

632
00:34:45.080 --> 00:34:47.260
<v Nigel Rapport>to exit those communities,

633
00:34:47.380 --> 00:34:48.180
<v Nigel Rapport>in the future.

634
00:34:48.940 --> 00:34:52.180
<v Nigel Rapport>So that there should be a right to exit an identity,

635
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:53.580
<v Nigel Rapport>a story, a community,

636
00:34:53.820 --> 00:34:55.580
<v Nigel Rapport>as well as the right to join it.

637
00:34:56.180 --> 00:35:01.100
<v Nigel Rapport>Now, one reason that I like this notion of irony

638
00:35:02.340 --> 00:35:07.720
<v Nigel Rapport>is that it tries to step outside the substance of story.

639
00:35:08.020 --> 00:35:11.140
<v Nigel Rapport>It says what's crucial is our capacity to make

640
00:35:11.140 --> 00:35:12.860
<v Nigel Rapport>and to write and to live stories.

641
00:35:13.460 --> 00:35:16.580
<v Nigel Rapport>But that capacity, we've got to somehow try and put

642
00:35:16.580 --> 00:35:21.640
<v Nigel Rapport>that capacity in a different analytical or theoretical space,

643
00:35:21.740 --> 00:35:22.580
<v Nigel Rapport>or cognitive space.

644
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:24.080
<v Nigel Rapport>We've got to try and say,

645
00:35:24.240 --> 00:35:26.860
<v Nigel Rapport>this is my capacity to make story,

646
00:35:27.180 --> 00:35:29.980
<v Nigel Rapport>but this actual capacity isn't a story.

647
00:35:30.240 --> 00:35:30.980
<v Nigel Rapport>It's truth.

648
00:35:32.120 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Nigel Rapport>And that's why I'm quite pleased to be a social scientist,

649
00:35:36.820 --> 00:35:39.600
<v Nigel Rapport>and maintain that there's a science to this

650
00:35:39.600 --> 00:35:45.820
<v Nigel Rapport>that I want to bring into the social exoticism of story.

651
00:35:45.820 --> 00:35:50.980
<v Nigel Rapport>I want to talk about the scientific truth of the individual.

652
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Nigel Rapport>This body here, which has the capacity to create

653
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:57.540
<v Nigel Rapport>and the capacity to suffer,

654
00:35:57.720 --> 00:35:59.980
<v Nigel Rapport>and all sorts of other capacities.

655
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:01.600
<v Nigel Rapport>But those capacities are real.

656
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Nigel Rapport>And those capacities are physical.

657
00:36:04.120 --> 00:36:06.820
<v Nigel Rapport>And those capacities have a physical embodiment

658
00:36:06.820 --> 00:36:08.940
<v Nigel Rapport>and a start and a death.

659
00:36:09.140 --> 00:36:11.720
<v Nigel Rapport>And those physical capacities need to be protected.

660
00:36:12.060 --> 00:36:14.040
<v Nigel Rapport>And this body needs to be protected.

661
00:36:14.340 --> 00:36:15.020
<v Nigel Rapport>And,

662
00:36:15.020 --> 00:36:16.700
<v Nigel Rapport>over and against,

663
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.160
<v Nigel Rapport>it's free momentary expression.

664
00:36:20.900 --> 00:36:24.160
<v Nigel Rapport>So I want to make a kind of picture of the world

665
00:36:24.160 --> 00:36:25.520
<v Nigel Rapport>as containing two domains.

666
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:27.840
<v Nigel Rapport>The domain of, if you like, culture,

667
00:36:27.860 --> 00:36:28.440
<v Nigel Rapport>and poetry,

668
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:29.620
<v Nigel Rapport>and religion,

669
00:36:29.720 --> 00:36:30.320
<v Nigel Rapport>and story.

670
00:36:30.740 --> 00:36:32.360
<v Nigel Rapport>And the domain over here,

671
00:36:33.020 --> 00:36:34.600
<v Nigel Rapport>that is where these places,

672
00:36:34.860 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Nigel Rapport>where these things come from.

673
00:36:36.180 --> 00:36:37.780
<v Nigel Rapport>The domain of physical reality,

674
00:36:38.100 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Nigel Rapport>and individual creativity,

675
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:43.060
<v Nigel Rapport>consciousness, mind, subjectivity, suffering.

676
00:36:43.600 --> 00:36:44.560
<v Nigel Rapport>And say,

677
00:36:45.020 --> 00:36:46.260
<v Nigel Rapport>also over here,

678
00:36:46.340 --> 00:36:48.680
<v Nigel Rapport>I want to have a kind of social domain

679
00:36:48.680 --> 00:36:50.300
<v Nigel Rapport>that's acultural,

680
00:36:50.520 --> 00:36:52.580
<v Nigel Rapport>that's outside the culture.

681
00:36:53.580 --> 00:36:54.720
<v Nigel Rapport>Society and culture.

682
00:36:54.860 --> 00:36:58.220
<v Nigel Rapport>These are two key terms in my discipline.

683
00:36:58.940 --> 00:36:59.860
<v Nigel Rapport>Social anthropology.

684
00:37:00.300 --> 00:37:01.260
<v Nigel Rapport>And they've got to be kept apart

685
00:37:01.260 --> 00:37:03.520
<v Nigel Rapport>to the extent that we can see society

686
00:37:04.180 --> 00:37:05.260
<v Nigel Rapport>encompassing cultures.

687
00:37:05.700 --> 00:37:07.100
<v Nigel Rapport>And it doesn't just encompass them,

688
00:37:07.140 --> 00:37:08.040
<v Nigel Rapport>it regulates them.

689
00:37:08.260 --> 00:37:08.900
<v Nigel Rapport>It says,

690
00:37:08.980 --> 00:37:10.240
<v Nigel Rapport>this cultural expression

691
00:37:11.080 --> 00:37:13.020
<v Nigel Rapport>must be curtailed

692
00:37:13.640 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Nigel Rapport>because if allowed to occur,

693
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:15.820
<v Nigel Rapport>if this story is allowed to express itself fully,

694
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.060
<v Nigel Rapport>like an absolutist story,

695
00:37:18.260 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Nigel Rapport>like Al-Qaeda,

696
00:37:19.060 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Nigel Rapport>or other kinds of religious fundamentalism,

697
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.800
<v Nigel Rapport>if this story is allowed to express itself fully,

698
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.420
<v Nigel Rapport>it will eradicate all other possible kinds of stories.

699
00:37:26.660 --> 00:37:29.040
<v Nigel Rapport>It's an absolutist final vocabulary.

700
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.500
<v Nigel Rapport>It's fine for those people who want to join it.

701
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:36.040
<v Nigel Rapport>We don't want to stop there being fundamentalists,

702
00:37:36.040 --> 00:37:36.460
<v Nigel Rapport>or Nazis,

703
00:37:36.600 --> 00:37:36.880
<v Nigel Rapport>or whatever.

704
00:37:37.040 --> 00:37:38.840
<v Nigel Rapport>People can join the community that they like,

705
00:37:38.980 --> 00:37:41.260
<v Nigel Rapport>but they're not able to use that rhetoric

706
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:42.720
<v Nigel Rapport>of their community

707
00:37:42.720 --> 00:37:43.820
<v Nigel Rapport>as anything but a rhetoric.

708
00:37:43.820 --> 00:37:46.280
<v Nigel Rapport>And there's got to be some kind of domain over here

709
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:46.980
<v Nigel Rapport>that says,

710
00:37:47.220 --> 00:37:49.940
<v Nigel Rapport>this is beyond the limits of possible expression

711
00:37:49.940 --> 00:37:51.240
<v Nigel Rapport>of that rhetoric

712
00:37:51.240 --> 00:37:52.720
<v Nigel Rapport>because it's threatening other rhetorics.

713
00:37:52.940 --> 00:37:54.880
<v Nigel Rapport>So there's a domain over here of science,

714
00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:57.140
<v Nigel Rapport>and there's also a domain over here of society,

715
00:37:57.560 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Nigel Rapport>and there's a domain over here of constitutional law

716
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.580
<v Nigel Rapport>that regulates the free expression of story.

717
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:06.260
<v Nigel Rapport>Now the issue is

718
00:38:06.260 --> 00:38:09.040
<v Nigel Rapport>of how to describe and prescribe

719
00:38:09.040 --> 00:38:11.200
<v Nigel Rapport>and set in place

720
00:38:11.200 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Nigel Rapport>this social sphere

721
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:14.640
<v Nigel Rapport>that's sort of acultural,

722
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Nigel Rapport>that's above the cultural sway.

723
00:38:17.600 --> 00:38:20.520
<v Nigel Rapport>I think liberalism is the best version we've got

724
00:38:20.520 --> 00:38:22.060
<v Nigel Rapport>of dealing with diversity.

725
00:38:22.620 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Nigel Rapport>I think Richard Rorty's way of describing it

726
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.000
<v Nigel Rapport>is postmodern bourgeois liberalism.

727
00:38:28.160 --> 00:38:30.440
<v Nigel Rapport>What he means by that mouthful

728
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:32.940
<v Nigel Rapport>is that here's something called Western liberalism,

729
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.440
<v Nigel Rapport>which doesn't say it came from nothing,

730
00:38:35.620 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Nigel Rapport>it has no historical basis,

731
00:38:37.080 --> 00:38:38.060
<v Nigel Rapport>it's just the truth.

732
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:41.740
<v Nigel Rapport>Yes, it's a Western enlightenment project.

733
00:38:41.740 --> 00:38:44.200
<v Nigel Rapport>That doesn't mean it's not the best thing that we've got.

734
00:38:44.380 --> 00:38:46.440
<v Nigel Rapport>That doesn't mean it can't be removed

735
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.080
<v Nigel Rapport>from those cultural historical moorings

736
00:38:49.740 --> 00:38:51.820
<v Nigel Rapport>and given to the world.

737
00:38:52.180 --> 00:38:54.060
<v Nigel Rapport>Scientific truths start somewhere

738
00:38:54.740 --> 00:38:57.820
<v Nigel Rapport>and become the truth that the world knows,

739
00:38:57.960 --> 00:38:59.760
<v Nigel Rapport>the truth of jet travel,

740
00:39:00.040 --> 00:39:01.720
<v Nigel Rapport>the truth of penicillin.

741
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:02.980
<v Nigel Rapport>Yes, it started somewhere.

742
00:39:03.040 --> 00:39:04.720
<v Nigel Rapport>It doesn't mean it's only true in this place.

743
00:39:05.500 --> 00:39:07.560
<v Nigel Rapport>Social philosophies also start somewhere,

744
00:39:07.700 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Nigel Rapport>like Western liberalism.

745
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:10.840
<v Nigel Rapport>That doesn't mean that they need to stay there.

746
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.180
<v Nigel Rapport>They can be the best picture

747
00:39:15.180 --> 00:39:18.300
<v Nigel Rapport>for the global expression of difference that we have.

748
00:39:24.560 --> 00:39:27.380
<v Nigel Rapport>It's this very difficult to set up,

749
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:28.740
<v Nigel Rapport>but very crucial to set up,

750
00:39:28.740 --> 00:39:29.880
<v Nigel Rapport>domain over here,

751
00:39:30.040 --> 00:39:32.100
<v Nigel Rapport>which is distinct from the particular

752
00:39:32.100 --> 00:39:33.960
<v Nigel Rapport>substantive expression of story

753
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.700
<v Nigel Rapport>that as an anthropologist

754
00:39:36.700 --> 00:39:38.840
<v Nigel Rapport>or someone trying to set up

755
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:40.200
<v Nigel Rapport>a center for cosmopolitan studies

756
00:39:40.200 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Nigel Rapport>that I'm interested in establishing.

757
00:39:42.940 --> 00:39:45.360
<v John Gray>We have time for one more question.

758
00:39:45.380 --> 00:39:45.600
<v John Gray>I'm sorry.

759
00:39:45.740 --> 00:39:46.460
<v John Gray>If there's a question.

760
00:39:48.200 --> 00:39:48.420
<v John Gray>Thank you.

761
00:39:48.820 --> 00:39:49.660
<v Audience>Thank you.

762
00:39:51.200 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Audience>John Stewart Mills on liberty

763
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.300
<v Audience>is very deeply resonating with me

764
00:39:55.300 --> 00:39:58.600
<v Audience>and informs my practice as a lawyer in Adelaide.

765
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.440
<v Audience>We have a wonderful opportunity in Adelaide

766
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:05.100
<v Audience>with some of our local political people

767
00:40:05.100 --> 00:40:06.560
<v Audience>and legal people

768
00:40:07.200 --> 00:40:09.760
<v Audience>to continue the very discussion, I think,

769
00:40:10.200 --> 00:40:11.440
<v Audience>that has challenged us to continue.

770
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:13.640
<v Audience>I wonder from your perspective

771
00:40:13.640 --> 00:40:15.420
<v Audience>if you can give us some guidance

772
00:40:16.200 --> 00:40:17.740
<v Audience>about where we might start

773
00:40:17.740 --> 00:40:22.520
<v Audience>to refresh that social environment

774
00:40:22.520 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Audience>in which this can occur.

775
00:40:25.520 --> 00:40:27.100
<v Nigel Rapport>Okay, that's a challenging question.

776
00:40:29.140 --> 00:40:31.140
<v Nigel Rapport>And it's a political question.

777
00:40:32.860 --> 00:40:35.040
<v Nigel Rapport>And setting up shop in Montreal,

778
00:40:35.100 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Nigel Rapport>as I am at the moment,

779
00:40:36.040 --> 00:40:39.580
<v Nigel Rapport>it's something that pertains to life there also.

780
00:40:40.200 --> 00:40:41.500
<v Nigel Rapport>I feel very strongly

781
00:40:42.200 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Nigel Rapport>that we must put in law

782
00:40:50.200 --> 00:40:54.460
<v Nigel Rapport>what are the constituent units of humanity.

783
00:40:56.200 --> 00:40:58.600
<v Nigel Rapport>What are the rights-bearing units?

784
00:41:00.340 --> 00:41:02.600
<v Nigel Rapport>And for me, there's only one answer,

785
00:41:02.720 --> 00:41:05.100
<v Nigel Rapport>and that is individual human beings.

786
00:41:06.200 --> 00:41:09.340
<v Nigel Rapport>And no other notion like a cultural community

787
00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Nigel Rapport>or a society or a church or an ethnic group

788
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.620
<v Nigel Rapport>are the kinds of things that can hold rights.

789
00:41:18.060 --> 00:41:19.840
<v Nigel Rapport>I feel very strongly

790
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.420
<v Nigel Rapport>that we have a right as an individual

791
00:41:22.420 --> 00:41:26.020
<v Nigel Rapport>to join and to make and to mock

792
00:41:26.020 --> 00:41:30.020
<v Nigel Rapport>and to leave and to recreate cultural communities

793
00:41:30.020 --> 00:41:32.120
<v Nigel Rapport>and churches and villages

794
00:41:32.120 --> 00:41:33.840
<v Nigel Rapport>and other kinds of communities.

795
00:41:34.100 --> 00:41:36.000
<v Nigel Rapport>But those communities mustn't become

796
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.020
<v Nigel Rapport>reified into things in themselves.

797
00:41:39.020 --> 00:41:41.620
<v Nigel Rapport>Or fixed in time or in space.

798
00:41:41.860 --> 00:41:44.860
<v Nigel Rapport>Or regarded as homogeneous or as determining.

799
00:41:45.520 --> 00:41:46.720
<v Nigel Rapport>It's the...

800
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:49.780
<v Nigel Rapport>Rorty calls lawyers

801
00:41:49.780 --> 00:41:52.140
<v Nigel Rapport>connoisseurs of justice.

802
00:41:53.100 --> 00:41:55.900
<v Nigel Rapport>And they have a crucial role to play

803
00:41:55.900 --> 00:42:01.340
<v Nigel Rapport>in this ideal liberal picture.

804
00:42:02.200 --> 00:42:07.300
<v Nigel Rapport>Because it's their role to find ways

805
00:42:07.300 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Nigel Rapport>in different social and cultural

806
00:42:09.020 --> 00:42:11.440
<v Nigel Rapport>milieu to have it recognized

807
00:42:12.020 --> 00:42:13.860
<v Nigel Rapport>that there's a reality

808
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:16.240
<v Nigel Rapport>to the individual

809
00:42:17.020 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Nigel Rapport>which is different to the abstract

810
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.300
<v Nigel Rapport>or the symbolic reality of communities,

811
00:42:21.680 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Nigel Rapport>of cultures, of ethnicities,

812
00:42:25.020 --> 00:42:26.060
<v Nigel Rapport>of indigeneities.

813
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:28.180
<v Nigel Rapport>These are part of what we construct.

814
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:29.420
<v Nigel Rapport>These are part of our story.

815
00:42:29.680 --> 00:42:31.940
<v Nigel Rapport>It's the position of lawyers to

816
00:42:33.180 --> 00:42:36.820
<v Nigel Rapport>put in place that kind of constitutional framework

817
00:42:36.820 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Nigel Rapport>whereby we as a society,

818
00:42:39.020 --> 00:42:39.620
<v Nigel Rapport>as individuals,

819
00:42:39.820 --> 00:42:43.720
<v Nigel Rapport>have rights to diverse cultural belongings.

820
00:42:44.060 --> 00:42:45.420
<v Nigel Rapport>But those belongings themselves

821
00:42:46.020 --> 00:42:48.340
<v Nigel Rapport>are not seen as having rights.

822
00:42:48.520 --> 00:42:50.080
<v Nigel Rapport>Things with rights.

823
00:42:50.820 --> 00:42:54.460
<v Nigel Rapport>This is a controversial position

824
00:42:55.020 --> 00:42:57.800
<v Nigel Rapport>in a time and a place where

825
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.840
<v Nigel Rapport>historical injustices lead us

826
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Nigel Rapport>to want to privilege certain cultural communities

827
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:07.680
<v Nigel Rapport>such as indigenous communities

828
00:43:07.680 --> 00:43:11.740
<v Nigel Rapport>and pay back for injustices

829
00:43:11.740 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Nigel Rapport>that have been done to them in the past.

830
00:43:15.380 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Nigel Rapport>Now, I don't think that a kind of positive discrimination

831
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:19.640
<v Nigel Rapport>on the basis of an abstraction

832
00:43:20.160 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Nigel Rapport>is the way forward.

833
00:43:21.460 --> 00:43:23.980
<v Nigel Rapport>I think it's a dangerous game to start playing.

834
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:26.740
<v Nigel Rapport>Because then one gets into the impossible situation

835
00:43:26.740 --> 00:43:28.320
<v Nigel Rapport>of never being able to leave

836
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.120
<v Nigel Rapport>this constructed reality that there are things called

837
00:43:31.680 --> 00:43:33.200
<v Nigel Rapport>communities which deserve rights.

838
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:36.680
<v Nigel Rapport>I think we have a right to our communities,

839
00:43:36.680 --> 00:43:38.720
<v Nigel Rapport>but the communities don't have rights to us.

840
00:43:39.240 --> 00:43:42.340
<v Nigel Rapport>And the role of the lawyer

841
00:43:42.340 --> 00:43:44.620
<v Nigel Rapport>is to institute that

842
00:43:45.680 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Nigel Rapport>the constituent scientific units of humanity

843
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Nigel Rapport>are a you and me,

844
00:43:50.940 --> 00:43:54.200
<v Nigel Rapport>not some kind of abstract us

845
00:43:54.200 --> 00:43:56.420
<v Nigel Rapport>that people tell us we're part of.

846
00:43:56.720 --> 00:43:59.840
<v John Gray>I think we're out of time, unfortunately.

847
00:44:00.500 --> 00:44:03.280
<v John Gray>Will you join me in thanking Nigel for his...

848
00:44:10.180 --> 00:44:11.260
<v John Gray>Thank you.

