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<v Carol Johnson>from the politics discipline at the University of Adelaide,

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<v Carol Johnson>and I'm going to be chairing today's session.

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<v Carol Johnson>And I'm very pleased to introduce to those of you who don't know her,

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<v Carol Johnson>Dr Sarah Madison.

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<v Carol Johnson>Sarah has a long history of being both an activist and a political scientist.

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<v Carol Johnson>Some of you may remember, for example, in her other activist life,

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<v Carol Johnson>her being a very successful spokesperson for WELL for many years.

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<v Carol Johnson>She's also, as an academic, responsible for publishing a number of works

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<v Carol Johnson>which look at the intersections between political science and activism.

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<v Carol Johnson>And as you'll have noticed from her brief description

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<v Carol Johnson>in the Festival of Ideas,

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<v Carol Johnson>her first work, for example, Activist Wisdom, did precisely that.

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<v Carol Johnson>She's also published, edited recently with Clive Hamilton,

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<v Carol Johnson>a very, very good book on silencing dissent,

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<v Carol Johnson>which I must admit I'm using a great deal in teaching

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<v Carol Johnson>and in my own research that looks at the silencing of dissent

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<v Carol Johnson>under the Howard government.

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<v Carol Johnson>And she's here today to talk to us,

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<v Carol Johnson>on the general topic of troubling times, dissent and democracy.

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<v Carol Johnson>And Sarah will be speaking for about 25 minutes

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<v Carol Johnson>and will then have 15 minutes for questions.

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<v Carol Johnson>So I'm pleased to hand over to Sarah.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Thanks, Carol, and thank you all for coming out on a fairly wild

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<v Sarah Maddison>and windy Adelaide morning.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Thanks for turning on your best weather for me.

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<v Sarah Maddison>I'd like to begin this morning with a few words

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<v Sarah Maddison>about the traditional owners of the land that we're on this morning,

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<v Sarah Maddison>the Kaurna people, and particularly by acknowledging the strength,

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<v Sarah Maddison>resilience and capacity of Australia's indigenous peoples,

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<v Sarah Maddison>particularly in what are very troubling times indeed for them.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In 2004, I co-authored a discussion paper published

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<v Sarah Maddison>by the Australia Institute, also called Silencing Dissent,

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<v Sarah Maddison>subtitled Non-Government Organisations

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<v Sarah Maddison>and Australian Democracy.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The paper documented the fact that the Australian people,

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<v Sarah Maddison>who were the most vulnerable to the threat of non-government,

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<v Sarah Maddison>It also documented the experiences of around 300 non-government organisations

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<v Sarah Maddison>that expressed some very strong views about the way in which governments,

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<v Sarah Maddison>but particularly the Howard government, subdued their often critical voices.

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<v Sarah Maddison>They reported tactics including bullying, intimidation, public denigration

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<v Sarah Maddison>and the threatened withdrawal of funding.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Sometimes these threats came directly from ministers or from ministers' offices.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The report made for pretty grim reading.

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<v Sarah Maddison>It raised some worrying questions about the health of Australian democracy.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And although it was largely ignored by the press,

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<v Sarah Maddison>it did spread like wildfire through the NGO community.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And it was from the success of this paper, or the resonance that this paper had on the ground,

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<v Sarah Maddison>that grew the book, Silencing Dissent, that I edited with Clive Hamilton.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And it is some of the issues raised in that book that I want to discuss with you this morning.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The contributors to the paper,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and the authors of the book,

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<v Sarah Maddison>document the many ways in which the Howard government has been responsible

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<v Sarah Maddison>for progressively dismantling the democratic processes

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<v Sarah Maddison>that create the capacity for public debate

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<v Sarah Maddison>and accommodate dissenting opinions in Australia.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The book argues that the apparently unconnected phenomena of attacks on non-government organisations,

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<v Sarah Maddison>the politicisation of the public service,

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<v Sarah Maddison>the stacking of statutory authorities,

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<v Sarah Maddison>increasing restrictions on academic freedom,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and control over universities,

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<v Sarah Maddison>the gagging or manipulation of some sections of the media,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and the politicisation of our military and intelligence services,

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<v Sarah Maddison>together form a pattern that poses a grave threat to the state of Australian democracy.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The mass of material that our contributors have gathered together in that book

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<v Sarah Maddison>presents a picture of a systematic strategy by the government

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<v Sarah Maddison>to mute opposition to government policy and to control public opinion.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The tactics used in this silencing of critics are diverse.

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<v Sarah Maddison>They include the withdrawal or threat of withdrawal of government funding,

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<v Sarah Maddison>threats to destroy the financial viability of organisations,

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<v Sarah Maddison>including threats to their tax status,

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<v Sarah Maddison>the appointment of party functionaries or friends to key positions,

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<v Sarah Maddison>strict interpretation of laws governing the release of information,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and in particular the targeting of individuals.

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<v Sarah Maddison>So while we're not suggesting that there is any written strategy

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<v Sarah Maddison>or any particular dirt unit designed to coordinate the silencing process,

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<v Sarah Maddison>we do argue that the Howard government is pervaded by an intolerant and anti-democratic sentiment,

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<v Sarah Maddison>one that is at times given an ideological justification

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<v Sarah Maddison>and which reflects a belief that it has the right to behave in any way that it sees fit.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Those are some pretty strong claims.

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<v Sarah Maddison>So let me mention some of the things that I've said.

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<v Sarah Maddison>I'll use the evidence outlined in the book to support that argument.

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<v Sarah Maddison>First let's consider the attacks on individual citizens

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<v Sarah Maddison>that have been employed with increasing frequency by the coalition government in Canberra,

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<v Sarah Maddison>often under the protection of parliamentary privilege

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<v Sarah Maddison>in order to avoid being sued for defamation.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The targets are most likely to be individual experts

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<v Sarah Maddison>who are critical of controversial government policy.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Certain members of the government appear to have been allocated

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<v Sarah Maddison>a back dog role.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In recent years this job seems to have fallen mainly to Tasmanian Senator Eric Abetz.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In a range of forums, but most notably in Senate committees,

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<v Sarah Maddison>critics of the government have found themselves subject to blistering personal attacks

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<v Sarah Maddison>by Abetz, who deploys his staff, presumably at the expense of the public purse,

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<v Sarah Maddison>to uncover aspects of critics past that can be used to denigrate them.

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<v Sarah Maddison>This tactic was used to great effect in an attempt to silence academic experts

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<v Sarah Maddison>who were critical of the government's controversial changes to industrial relations laws.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In 2005 Abetz referred in the Senate to Professor David Peetz,

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<v Sarah Maddison>a professor of industrial relations at Griffith University,

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<v Sarah Maddison>who apparently engages in moral equivocation over terrorism.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The same material on Peetz was again used

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<v Sarah Maddison>earlier this year, this time by the government's new attack puppy,

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<v Sarah Maddison>Joe Hockey, in his attempt to discredit Peetz's research

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<v Sarah Maddison>on the impact of the Work Choices legislation on women.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Abetz also attempted to tarnish the credibility and independence

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<v Sarah Maddison>of another industrial relations expert, South Australia's own Professor Barbara Pocock,

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<v Sarah Maddison>by accusing her of keeping secret her alleged links to the trade union movement.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In responding, Pocock exposed the tactic of referring to the work choices

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<v Sarah Maddison>more funds from business and government.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Abetz has also proved willing to launch verbal attacks on organisations

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<v Sarah Maddison>as well as individuals.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In addition to those one might expect the government to criticise,

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<v Sarah Maddison>Abetz has even threatened the RSPCA for campaigning against live sheep exports.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Now the argument here is a little tricky to follow.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But basically, because the ALP has a policy of giving exporters five years

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<v Sarah Maddison>to improve animal welfare standards in the live export trade,

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<v Sarah Maddison>according to Abetz, the RSPCA was, quote,

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<v Sarah Maddison>effectively campaigning in favour of the ALP and against the government.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Abetz said he was considering measures to improve the organisation's accountability,

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<v Sarah Maddison>especially considering whether such organisations should continue to benefit

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<v Sarah Maddison>Now I don't mean any of this to sound as though I have some sort of obsession

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<v Sarah Maddison>with Erica Betz, I can assure you I do not.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But it is interesting to consider in some detail the work of just one member

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<v Sarah Maddison>of this government in silencing dissenting individuals and organisations.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But this work of silencing non-government organisations is far more widespread

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<v Sarah Maddison>than the work of just one man.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The methods used by the Howard government to transform the landscape

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<v Sarah Maddison>of non-government organisations are of particular concern to me and in this book.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Over the last decade a clear division has emerged between favoured organisations,

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<v Sarah Maddison>which receive large sums of federal government money and are represented

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<v Sarah Maddison>on various influential public bodies, and those on the outer who refuse to toe the public line.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The former, the tamed organisations, as we call them,

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<v Sarah Maddison>such as the Salvation Army, which saw its own zero tolerance approach

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<v Sarah Maddison>to substance abuse taken up as government policy to the detriment

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<v Sarah Maddison>of the established harm minimisation approach, now exercise disproportionate influence

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<v Sarah Maddison>They also enjoy lucrative government contracts.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Certain individuals who lead these tamed organisations have been appointed

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<v Sarah Maddison>On the other hand, NGOs that refuse to toe the public line,

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<v Sarah Maddison>which are used to genuflect to the government, are made to suffer.

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<v Sarah Maddison>They are subject to threats of defunding, public attacks and exclusion from consultation processes.

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<v Sarah Maddison>There is a frightening example that illustrates these tactics.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In July 2006, the Medical Journal of Australia published research

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<v Sarah Maddison>by three academics at the Australian National University,

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<v Sarah Maddison>may give foreign companies the right to process blood,

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<v Sarah Maddison>donated by Australians, and that processing abroad could jeopardise

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<v Sarah Maddison>the safety of blood products used in Australian hospitals.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Now, the Red Cross Blood Service, which collects all blood in Australia,

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<v Sarah Maddison>of public information on blood safety.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But when the ABC's PM program ran the story about the free trade agreement,

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<v Sarah Maddison>It approached the Red Cross Blood Service for comment,

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<v Sarah Maddison>The Red Cross has come under sustained pressure from the Federal Government

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<v Sarah Maddison>that might contradict the government's position.

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<v Sarah Maddison>When it had raised similar concerns three months earlier,

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<v Sarah Maddison>the credibility of the Red Cross itself

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<v Sarah Maddison>who claimed it had caved into the demands of, quote,

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<v Sarah Maddison>The Federal Government gag on the Red Cross,

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<v Sarah Maddison>almost certainly orchestrated by the Prime Minister's office,

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<v Sarah Maddison>has meant that the public is being denied important and accurate

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<v Sarah Maddison>and impartial advice about an issue of public health.

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<v Sarah Maddison>So how do they get away with it, and why are they so effective?

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<v Sarah Maddison>The government's techniques have in part been effective

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<v Sarah Maddison>because those inclined to protest are cowed by the threats.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Those who criticise the government are often subject to intense pressure.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In doing this work, the government has a close cabal of supporters in the media

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<v Sarah Maddison>who rarely miss an opportunity to disparage critics of the government

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<v Sarah Maddison>as hysterical Howard haters.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The government has a strong sense of responsibility for its actions,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and it is a strong sense of responsibility for its actions.

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<v Sarah Maddison>This criticism is intended to protect a powerful elite.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The names of those who serve this role are well known, I'm sure, to most of you,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and in a circle of ideological warriors comprised of Andrew Bolt,

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<v Sarah Maddison>Paddy McGuinness, Miranda Devine, Janet Albrechtson, Piers Ackerman,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and others including Keith Windshuttle, Christopher Pearson and Gerard Henderson.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Together with talkback radio host Alan Jones,

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<v Sarah Maddison>they form a syndicate of right-wing commentators who are favoured by the Howard government,

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<v Sarah Maddison>not only because they share a similar ideological position,

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<v Sarah Maddison>but because they are vituperative and unrelenting critics

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<v Sarah Maddison>of anything vaguely left of a centre that has moved a long way to the right in recent years.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The result is that over the last 11 and a bit years of the Howard government,

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<v Sarah Maddison>it has become increasingly difficult for critics like me,

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<v Sarah Maddison>to be seen as anything more than what this syndicate refers to pejoratively as Howard haters.

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<v Sarah Maddison>During this time, a disorganised and ineffective opposition has allowed Howard's style of politics to dominate.

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<v Sarah Maddison>He's known as the Teflon Prime Minister because despite various scandals

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<v Sarah Maddison>like missing weapons of mass destruction, vicious lies about children thrown into the ocean,

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<v Sarah Maddison>In part, I fear this is because in lecture theatres today,

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<v Sarah Maddison>I face halls full of students who don't remember a time prior to the Howard government.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Frightening.

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<v Sarah Maddison>They were all seven or eight years old when he was elected,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and for them, this style of politics is just business as usual.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But there are many others who should know better,

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<v Sarah Maddison>but who are unable or unwilling to hear criticism of Howard

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<v Sarah Maddison>petty, partisan, personal dislike of the man.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The substance behind this, our critiques, is dismissed by rhetoric such as

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<v Sarah Maddison>and public debate becomes reduced to this simplistic left-right, us-versus-them, schoolyard squabble.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The message is that critics like me are just bitter lefties

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<v Sarah Maddison>who are pissed off because we can't get our own issues on the agenda anymore.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But I want to let you in on a little secret here this morning,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and that is that I was critical of the Keating government too.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Like many Australians, I thought that the Labor government

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<v Sarah Maddison>to the disadvantage of issues that mattered to me,

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<v Sarah Maddison>like gender equality that had been allowed to slip from the political agenda.

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<v Sarah Maddison>I was critical of the Keating government in public on many occasions,

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<v Sarah Maddison>but not once did anyone ever describe me as a Keating hater.

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<v Sarah Maddison>For while I may have been critical of some Keating government policies,

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<v Sarah Maddison>my right to articulate this criticism as an engaged and participating Australian citizen

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<v Sarah Maddison>And this is what has changed in the last 11 years.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Sadly, to the detriment of the Labor government,

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<v Sarah Maddison>Howard's own revisionist view of democracy has fundamentally changed our political culture.

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<v Sarah Maddison>A clue, I think, to Howard's views on democracy

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<v Sarah Maddison>can be found in his often stated commitment of governing for Australia's mainstream.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In his view, those who would challenge or criticise government are a noisy minority.

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<v Sarah Maddison>He's also described it as representing boutique interests.

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<v Sarah Maddison>His aim is for Australians to feel relaxed and comfortable,

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<v Sarah Maddison>a state that includes political disengagement.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Indeed, he has said that politics should not stir the passions of the people,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and should be kept off the front pages of our newspapers.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Applied to the media, to universities, and to the non-government sector,

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<v Sarah Maddison>this view has overseen a decline in the range of views to be heard in public debates.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The references to mainstream Australia,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and to political correctness,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and the dismissal of critics as out-of-touch elites,

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<v Sarah Maddison>has dramatically reduced the range of legitimate voices now heard in public debate.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But there's a deeper level again, I think.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Howard's views on democracy rest on a particular understanding of human nature.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Howard and his colleagues believe that it is normal and natural

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<v Sarah Maddison>They believe that the human nature is a form of self-fulfilling prophecy,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and that it is not a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In this view, human beings are understood to be fundamentally acquisitive,

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<v Sarah Maddison>for whom consumption and acquisition are the means to happiness.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Citizens are regarded as having little concern with democratic participation,

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<v Sarah Maddison>And this view of human nature has, I think, over the last 11 years,

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<v Sarah Maddison>Self-interest, during this time, has been promoted as a virtue,

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<v Sarah Maddison>as directing the way that good citizens should behave.

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<v Sarah Maddison>It is now far more acceptable for citizens to see little value

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<v Sarah Maddison>Their disengagement is further exacerbated by the sorts of restrictions

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<v Sarah Maddison>on the flow of information that we describe in the book.

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<v Sarah Maddison>An uninformed population is, of course, far less able to hold its government to account.

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<v Sarah Maddison>So we can see evidence for this, I think,

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<v Sarah Maddison>if we look at Australians' views on the environment.

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<v Sarah Maddison>According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics,

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<v Sarah Maddison>in 1992, 75% of Australians described themselves as concerned about environmental problems.

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<v Sarah Maddison>By 2001, this had fallen to 62%.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And by 2004, only 57% of Australians described themselves

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<v Sarah Maddison>Now, during these same years, we have had a government that has gagged CSIRO climate scientists,

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<v Sarah Maddison>attempted to silence environmental NGOs by threatening both their funding and their tax status,

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<v Sarah Maddison>while allowing much of their climate policy to be written by the so-called Greenhouse Mafia,

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<v Sarah Maddison>During this same period, the Howard government itself has willfully ignored the evidence on climate change,

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<v Sarah Maddison>preferring to believe that the science is nothing more than some ideologically driven lefty conspiracy

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<v Sarah Maddison>to undermine the free market of the mining industry.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But as the public have at last begun to wake up to the mounting and irrefutable evidence,

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<v Sarah Maddison>it is now, I think, the government that is looking a little foolish

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<v Sarah Maddison>as they scramble to find a new position on climate change in time for the election.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But this is just one example of the consequences of a government that has failed in its duty

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<v Sarah Maddison>to maintain and preserve the democratic institutions entrusted to their care for their term in office.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In the face of what we see as this government's abject failure to carry out their responsibility

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<v Sarah Maddison>for protecting our democratic institutions, there are, thankfully, some signs of resistance.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And these are, of course, the way to the future.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The last few days or weeks have thrown up a new test for a silenced Australia.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And I cannot finish today without mentioning the latest threat to Australian democracy.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Howard is now using his substantial political nous to create another children overboard,

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<v Sarah Maddison>another weapons of mass destruction fixation,

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<v Sarah Maddison>another scandalous issue in which he can position himself as the strongest of strong leaders,

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<v Sarah Maddison>the father figure of a nation now.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And he is now using his substantial political nous to create another child abuser.

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<v Sarah Maddison>I am, of course, speaking about the Howard government's newly discovered emergency of child sexual abuse

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<v Sarah Maddison>in the Northern Territory and the aptly described Trojan horse policy response

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<v Sarah Maddison>that will see the federal government take control of land, communities and individual welfare payments

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<v Sarah Maddison>in response to a report that recommended none of these things.

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<v Sarah Maddison>This gross and aggressive policy response has been initiated with no consultation with Indigenous groups.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And communities, with the possible exception of Noel Pearson.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Now let's think about the silencing strategies that have preceded and permitted this situation to occur.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Most obviously, we have seen the abolition of ATSIC,

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<v Sarah Maddison>another case where the recommendations of a report were ignored

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<v Sarah Maddison>while government action was simultaneously justified as a response to the same report.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Australia's Indigenous peoples now have no national Indigenous representative body,

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<v Sarah Maddison>The abolition of ATSIC took place in a context in which discourse about Indigenous rights

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<v Sarah Maddison>had been progressively marginalised as ineffective and symbolic rhetoric,

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<v Sarah Maddison>in which talk of past injustices in need of address was marginalised as a black armband view of history.

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<v Sarah Maddison>These changes in discourse also served to marginalise some of the stronger and more effective Indigenous leaders,

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<v Sarah Maddison>whose views were recast as outdated and impractical.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In the year 2000, over a million non-Indigenous Australians marched across the Harbour Bridge for reconciliation,

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<v Sarah Maddison>offering up to the Howard government a decade of grassroots conversation and commitment to the idea of reconciliation.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In response, Howard and his government turned their backs.

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<v Sarah Maddison>They turned their backs too on report after report that documented the appalling conditions in some remote communities.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And they turned their back on the recommendations of the Australian Government,

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<v Sarah Maddison>which were the only recommendations that have been made during the last 11 years to address some of these problems.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Until now, when, coincidentally, just a few months out from an election,

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<v Sarah Maddison>the Howard Government has declared an emergency in the Northern Territory,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and are sending in the Army, the police and a cobbled-together collection of other professionals.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The policies are poorly thought through in so many, many ways.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But I have no doubt they have been extremely well thought through

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<v Sarah Maddison>in relation to seizing control of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities.

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<v Sarah Maddison>They have been in the hands of the Australian Government for a long time,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and they have been doing this for a long time.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But the response from Indigenous communities has been swift,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and we can expect to see more detailed statements and recommendations emerge

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<v Sarah Maddison>But the individuals who have come together to organise this response

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<v Sarah Maddison>do so in the sort of political climate that I've described this morning.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Their organisations risk death,

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<v Sarah Maddison>and they are not necessarily funding.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Their own reputations may be trashed, as so many others have been.

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<v Sarah Maddison>There is no institutional or representative capacity remaining

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<v Sarah Maddison>that will assist them to speak up and to be heard in the public policy debate we must have on this issue.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Standing up to the level of dishonesty and political manipulation

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<v Sarah Maddison>demonstrate the triumph of conscience over fear.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In the face of a Government that has repeatedly pilloried individuals for speaking out or for just doing their job,

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<v Sarah Maddison>these actions take courage and a determination to let principle prevail,

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<v Sarah Maddison>regardless of the personal, professional or organisational consequences.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The central argument in silencing dissent is that every Australian citizen

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<v Sarah Maddison>deserves a democracy in which dissent is considered to be part of a robust democracy.

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<v Sarah Maddison>A democratic process

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<v Sarah Maddison>in which our universities and our broader research community

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<v Sarah Maddison>are at the cutting edge of new ideas

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<v Sarah Maddison>and free of ideological intervention.

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<v Sarah Maddison>We deserve a public service and statutory authorities

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<v Sarah Maddison>that are free to provide the sort of frank and fearless advice

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<v Sarah Maddison>We deserve a media that is committed to and enabled in

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<v Sarah Maddison>its work of communicating political decisions to the general public

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<v Sarah Maddison>without bias or interference.

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<v Sarah Maddison>We deserve a non-government sector that is properly resourced

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<v Sarah Maddison>and unafraid to provide a critical voice in public policy debates.

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<v Sarah Maddison>We deserve military and intelligence services that are able to place national security

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<v Sarah Maddison>And we deserve parliamentary institutions like the Senate

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<v Sarah Maddison>that provide an effective check on executive power.

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<v Sarah Maddison>But to preserve and to maintain these institutions,

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<v Sarah Maddison>democracy needs champions.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Under Howard, Australian political culture has declined

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<v Sarah Maddison>to the point where speaking up is the exception

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<v Sarah Maddison>and remaining quiet is the norm.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Over the last few years, many people have wondered aloud

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<v Sarah Maddison>how it is that the government, and especially the Prime Minister,

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<v Sarah Maddison>have escaped censure for creating a culture of political deception.

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<v Sarah Maddison>We believe that this transformation of the democratic landscape

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<v Sarah Maddison>explains how and why this government has not been brought to account.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Beyond the limited democracy offered by the electoral process,

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<v Sarah Maddison>there is now much tighter control over the flow of information

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<v Sarah Maddison>that should help to keep citizens informed.

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<v Sarah Maddison>There are fewer forums in which dissenting voices can be heard.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And there is an increasingly rigid insistence that only those anointed by the government

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<v Sarah Maddison>Authoritarianism can only flourish where our democracy has been eroded.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In the normal course of affairs, most people don't think much

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<v Sarah Maddison>We take it for granted.

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<v Sarah Maddison>The creeping authoritarianism of the last decade, however,

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<v Sarah Maddison>is cause for us all to wake from our slumber.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Democracy is a noble ideal.

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<v Sarah Maddison>It is a prize for those of us prepared to promote and defend it.

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<v Sarah Maddison>When democratic institutions are eroded, authoritarianism is not far behind.

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<v Sarah Maddison>It is a prize for those of us prepared to promote and defend it.

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<v Sarah Maddison>When democratic institutions are eroded, authoritarianism is not far behind.

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<v Sarah Maddison>In light of this, it is time to reassert the role of dissent

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<v Sarah Maddison>and to praise the contribution to democracy made by those who speak out,

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<v Sarah Maddison>who engage in debate, and who criticise the powerful,

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<v Sarah Maddison>no matter how uncomfortable it may make the government of the day.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Because democracy is worth defending.

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<v Carol Johnson>Thank you.

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<v Carol Johnson>Thank you Sarah, and thanks for giving us both an incredibly disturbing and incredibly inspiring speech.

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<v Carol Johnson>And also for giving us a bit of a precursor of your next book,

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<v Carol Johnson>which is on indigenous issues and indigenous activism.

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<v Carol Johnson>Now we have a few questions.

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<v Carol Johnson>We have 15 minutes for questions.

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<v Carol Johnson>I would ask people to keep the questions brief, so as many people as possible have a chance to speak.

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<v Carol Johnson>So please make them a question rather than a statement.

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<v Carol Johnson>There are roving microphones which will be passed around,

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<v Carol Johnson>and if you could wait to ask your question until you get a microphone, that would be great.

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<v Carol Johnson>I'd really like to ask two questions.

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<v Audience>I'll say the second one, but I don't understand if that comes later.

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<v Audience>The first one I'd like to ask is,

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<v Audience>with John Howard's anti-terror legislation,

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00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Audience>can we really be scared, very alarmed maybe, alert and alarmed perhaps,

412
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<v Audience>that we may see worse as far as further erosions go,

413
00:28:48.040 --> 00:28:50.820
<v Audience>particularly if he is re-elected?

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00:28:50.980 --> 00:28:52.320
<v Audience>And then the second question is,

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<v Audience>can we hope that a Rudd-Labour government,

416
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:56.540
<v Audience>admittedly, might not be able to do that?

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00:28:56.560 --> 00:28:58.700
<v Audience>Might not do all the things that we would like,

418
00:28:58.780 --> 00:29:03.460
<v Audience>but at least would it wind back the process that Howard has started,

419
00:29:03.520 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Audience>or will they maybe want to continue it as well?

420
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<v Sarah Maddison>Okay, in answer to your first question,

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<v Sarah Maddison>I think what's even more disturbing than the federal anti-terror,

422
00:29:14.780 --> 00:29:16.460
<v Sarah Maddison>quote-unquote, legislation,

423
00:29:16.580 --> 00:29:19.240
<v Sarah Maddison>is what's now happening in New South Wales,

424
00:29:19.340 --> 00:29:22.300
<v Sarah Maddison>and the fact that so many state governments are in fact following suit.

425
00:29:22.660 --> 00:29:25.540
<v Sarah Maddison>The legislation just passed in New South Wales

426
00:29:25.540 --> 00:29:26.540
<v Sarah Maddison>to produce the legislation,

427
00:29:26.560 --> 00:29:30.080
<v Sarah Maddison>to protect us all from terrorism during APEC,

428
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.620
<v Sarah Maddison>which will of course be used by the Prime Minister

429
00:29:32.620 --> 00:29:38.260
<v Sarah Maddison>as a platform to reinforce his own standing as an international player,

430
00:29:39.300 --> 00:29:41.040
<v Sarah Maddison>extraordinary in their scope,

431
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.320
<v Sarah Maddison>and I find deeply, deeply disturbing

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00:29:45.320 --> 00:29:47.900
<v Sarah Maddison>that we have come to a point in this country

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00:29:47.900 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Sarah Maddison>where that kind of legislation can be passed

434
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:55.000
<v Sarah Maddison>with very little outcry about it.

435
00:29:55.020 --> 00:29:56.540
<v Sarah Maddison>Some of the provisions in that legislation,

436
00:29:56.560 --> 00:29:58.420
<v Sarah Maddison>some of the provisions in that legislation are truly frightening.

437
00:29:59.560 --> 00:30:03.060
<v Sarah Maddison>And in answer to whether a Labor government would turn it around,

438
00:30:03.360 --> 00:30:08.660
<v Sarah Maddison>I've heard little evidence and little response from the Labor Party

439
00:30:08.660 --> 00:30:12.860
<v Sarah Maddison>to suggest that they take the issues raised in silencing dissent seriously.

440
00:30:13.560 --> 00:30:17.080
<v Sarah Maddison>There are certainly some things that they could change like that.

441
00:30:17.220 --> 00:30:21.280
<v Sarah Maddison>There are institutional decisions and measures and practices

442
00:30:21.280 --> 00:30:23.360
<v Sarah Maddison>that could be reversed with the stroke of a pen.

443
00:30:23.580 --> 00:30:25.680
<v Sarah Maddison>What will be much harder to turn around

444
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:28.080
<v Sarah Maddison>is this decline in our political culture

445
00:30:28.080 --> 00:30:31.380
<v Sarah Maddison>that has been a slow process over 11 years

446
00:30:31.380 --> 00:30:33.640
<v Sarah Maddison>and it will take a committed government

447
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.220
<v Sarah Maddison>to revitalise Australian public debate

448
00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Sarah Maddison>and to revitalise our democracy.

449
00:30:39.380 --> 00:30:42.240
<v Sarah Maddison>That won't happen with any change of government

450
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.080
<v Sarah Maddison>and it will take all of us.

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00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.560
<v Carol Johnson>We had a question down the front, I think, next.

452
00:30:47.560 --> 00:30:48.900
<v Carol Johnson>A gentleman in grey.

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00:30:49.860 --> 00:30:54.260
<v Carol Johnson>Just put your hand up to indicate that you've got the...

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00:30:54.260 --> 00:30:55.280
<v Carol Johnson>Just ask it, yeah, sure.

455
00:30:56.180 --> 00:30:59.460
<v Audience>I'm just wondering if you've come across incidents

456
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<v Audience>where quasi-marketisation of services

457
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.820
<v Audience>like in education or social programs

458
00:31:06.820 --> 00:31:10.740
<v Audience>have been used to control the workers to not do certain things

459
00:31:11.260 --> 00:31:12.080
<v Audience>rather than...

460
00:31:12.600 --> 00:31:14.700
<v Audience>They're put across as, you must do this,

461
00:31:14.780 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Audience>but what it does is forces them to jettison this other aspect to the work

462
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.940
<v Audience>that is really...

463
00:31:20.940 --> 00:31:23.800
<v Audience>seems to be what they want to exclude workers, separate workers,

464
00:31:23.800 --> 00:31:25.820
<v Audience>from doing advocacy-type roles

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00:31:25.820 --> 00:31:29.700
<v Audience>or, like, the micromanagement of the history curriculum now.

466
00:31:29.940 --> 00:31:30.240
<v Audience>Yeah.

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00:31:30.700 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Sarah Maddison>In the gentle hands of my dear friend, Gerard Henderson.

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00:31:38.940 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Sarah Maddison>Can you give a question?

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00:31:41.580 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Sarah Maddison>The question was about whether the sort of marketisation

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00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Sarah Maddison>of certain sectors and services

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00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.100
<v Sarah Maddison>is in fact contributing to the silencing

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00:31:53.100 --> 00:31:54.580
<v Sarah Maddison>of some advocacy work.

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00:31:54.740 --> 00:31:58.280
<v Sarah Maddison>And I think that that is nowhere more true

474
00:31:58.280 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Sarah Maddison>than in the community sector,

475
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.120
<v Sarah Maddison>where the increased contracting out regimes

476
00:32:03.120 --> 00:32:07.840
<v Sarah Maddison>that, A, triple the administrative burden on organisations,

477
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:11.660
<v Sarah Maddison>then see them acting as a quasi-arm of government

478
00:32:11.660 --> 00:32:13.200
<v Sarah Maddison>in providing government services,

479
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.500
<v Sarah Maddison>which then becomes a bit of a psychological double-bind

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00:32:17.500 --> 00:32:19.420
<v Sarah Maddison>for the people providing the services.

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00:32:19.600 --> 00:32:23.080
<v Sarah Maddison>And this is one thing I've heard from a huge range of individuals,

482
00:32:23.100 --> 00:32:23.340
<v Sarah Maddison>and I've heard from NGOs.

483
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.500
<v Sarah Maddison>But, you know, if we bite the hand that feeds us

484
00:32:26.500 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Sarah Maddison>and we lose our funding to provide this service,

485
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.540
<v Sarah Maddison>who will look after these people, our clients?

486
00:32:33.360 --> 00:32:38.840
<v Sarah Maddison>But in the sort of broader package of those reforms,

487
00:32:39.540 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Sarah Maddison>it's the advocacy work that is as important

488
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.740
<v Sarah Maddison>in the role that those organisations provide

489
00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:48.300
<v Sarah Maddison>that has been squeezed.

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00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Sarah Maddison>And it's that quote from Archbishop Camara,

491
00:32:53.100 --> 00:32:53.860
<v Sarah Maddison>from Brazil, who said,

492
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.980
<v Sarah Maddison>when I feed the poor, they call me a saint.

493
00:32:56.120 --> 00:32:57.700
<v Sarah Maddison>When I ask why the poor have no food,

494
00:32:57.800 --> 00:32:58.540
<v Sarah Maddison>they call me a communist.

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00:32:58.980 --> 00:33:01.260
<v Sarah Maddison>And that's precisely the situation

496
00:33:01.260 --> 00:33:03.280
<v Sarah Maddison>that these organisations are in.

497
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.580
<v Sarah Maddison>And this is a huge loss to our public policy.

498
00:33:06.700 --> 00:33:09.700
<v Sarah Maddison>It's not just about these organisations' right to speak out.

499
00:33:09.860 --> 00:33:12.420
<v Sarah Maddison>These are the organisations on the ground,

500
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.320
<v Sarah Maddison>with the knowledge about the way that public policy

501
00:33:15.320 --> 00:33:17.140
<v Sarah Maddison>is impacting on people's lives.

502
00:33:17.320 --> 00:33:19.360
<v Sarah Maddison>If that feedback loop is broken

503
00:33:19.360 --> 00:33:22.060
<v Sarah Maddison>and that information is not fed back

504
00:33:22.060 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Sarah Maddison>into the policy process,

505
00:33:24.520 --> 00:33:26.580
<v Sarah Maddison>we all lose out because the quality

506
00:33:26.580 --> 00:33:28.900
<v Sarah Maddison>of our public policy declines.

507
00:33:29.660 --> 00:33:31.860
<v Carol Johnson>We had another question down the front.

508
00:33:32.080 --> 00:33:33.860
<v Carol Johnson>Does that person still want to ask the question?

509
00:33:34.280 --> 00:33:34.800
<v Carol Johnson>No?

510
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:38.620
<v Carol Johnson>In that case, it was the gentleman in the black jumper over there.

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00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Audience>It's important to understand and know your adversaries.

512
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.140
<v Audience>There's a clear intellectual and philosophical driver

513
00:33:49.140 --> 00:33:51.220
<v Audience>for the neocons in the US that goes back

514
00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:52.900
<v Audience>to Leo Strauss and his disciples.

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00:33:53.300 --> 00:33:55.760
<v Audience>Surely this isn't just John Howard.

516
00:33:55.940 --> 00:33:59.020
<v Audience>Can you see a corresponding motivation

517
00:33:59.020 --> 00:34:01.340
<v Audience>and driver for Howard and his associates?

518
00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:06.040
<v Sarah Maddison>I think that the global spread

519
00:34:06.040 --> 00:34:08.920
<v Sarah Maddison>of those neoconservative ideology,

520
00:34:09.720 --> 00:34:11.660
<v Sarah Maddison>neoliberal economic ideas,

521
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.740
<v Sarah Maddison>is certainly a part of a global trend.

522
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.900
<v Sarah Maddison>I think we still have seen our civil society,

523
00:34:19.940 --> 00:34:20.900
<v Sarah Maddison>if you like, suffer.

524
00:34:20.900 --> 00:34:22.340
<v Sarah Maddison>More than some other countries

525
00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Sarah Maddison>who have gone down similar economic and social paths.

526
00:34:27.180 --> 00:34:30.240
<v Sarah Maddison>There are a range of reasons for understanding that.

527
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Sarah Maddison>Howard's certainly not alone,

528
00:34:31.680 --> 00:34:34.520
<v Sarah Maddison>but I think he's been the master.

529
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Sarah Maddison>I think that we can see evidence of that

530
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Sarah Maddison>in the way that a lot of his ideas,

531
00:34:39.180 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Sarah Maddison>his campaigning strategies and so on

532
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:42.460
<v Sarah Maddison>are in fact being exported.

533
00:34:43.600 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Sarah Maddison>The Mark Texter-influenced campaign

534
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.580
<v Sarah Maddison>has been exported to New Zealand

535
00:34:49.580 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Sarah Maddison>and more recently,

536
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:51.520
<v Sarah Maddison>to Canada.

537
00:34:51.720 --> 00:34:53.760
<v Sarah Maddison>But there's an interesting difference in Canada.

538
00:34:54.300 --> 00:34:56.560
<v Sarah Maddison>One thing that's described in the book

539
00:34:56.560 --> 00:34:58.260
<v Sarah Maddison>in Helen Esther's chapter on the media

540
00:34:58.260 --> 00:34:59.980
<v Sarah Maddison>is Howard's incredible control

541
00:34:59.980 --> 00:35:02.180
<v Sarah Maddison>over the parliamentary media

542
00:35:02.180 --> 00:35:03.900
<v Sarah Maddison>and political reporting

543
00:35:03.900 --> 00:35:07.340
<v Sarah Maddison>in that he does a bit of friendly talkback

544
00:35:07.340 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Sarah Maddison>with a friendly talkback radio host

545
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Sarah Maddison>a couple of times a week.

546
00:35:11.120 --> 00:35:13.760
<v Sarah Maddison>He invites the TV cameras into the radio studio,

547
00:35:13.940 --> 00:35:16.220
<v Sarah Maddison>which is why we see so much news footage of him

548
00:35:16.220 --> 00:35:17.780
<v Sarah Maddison>in a radio studio.

549
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.140
<v Sarah Maddison>And then the transcripts from those interviews

550
00:35:20.140 --> 00:35:20.860
<v Sarah Maddison>are circulated.

551
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:21.580
<v Sarah Maddison>They're circulated to the print media

552
00:35:21.580 --> 00:35:23.340
<v Sarah Maddison>and when they have follow-up questions,

553
00:35:23.540 --> 00:35:25.000
<v Sarah Maddison>they're referred back to the transcript.

554
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.200
<v Sarah Maddison>So that's a means of very tightly controlling

555
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.640
<v Sarah Maddison>the reporting of political information.

556
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:32.240
<v Sarah Maddison>Now the newly elected

557
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:34.420
<v Sarah Maddison>conservative Canadian government

558
00:35:34.420 --> 00:35:35.600
<v Sarah Maddison>thought that was a top idea

559
00:35:35.600 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Sarah Maddison>and that they might try and influence

560
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.640
<v Sarah Maddison>the same controls over their parliamentary press gallery.

561
00:35:39.900 --> 00:35:41.880
<v Sarah Maddison>And the Canadian parliamentary press gallery

562
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:42.600
<v Sarah Maddison>went on strike

563
00:35:43.260 --> 00:35:44.220
<v Sarah Maddison>and said,

564
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:45.780
<v Sarah Maddison>we don't think so.

565
00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:49.380
<v Sarah Maddison>So there is a degree of complicity

566
00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Sarah Maddison>in the Australian media

567
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:56.200
<v Sarah Maddison>that allows Howard to be such a master.

568
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Sarah Maddison>But he certainly,

569
00:35:57.140 --> 00:35:58.900
<v Sarah Maddison>while he shares the views, I think,

570
00:35:58.900 --> 00:36:04.060
<v Sarah Maddison>of a lot of his political brothers in arms overseas,

571
00:36:04.720 --> 00:36:08.260
<v Sarah Maddison>I think he has, you know,

572
00:36:08.260 --> 00:36:10.460
<v Sarah Maddison>Bush and Blair did not get away with Iraq

573
00:36:10.460 --> 00:36:12.140
<v Sarah Maddison>in the way that Howard did.

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00:36:14.080 --> 00:36:16.740
<v Sarah Maddison>We had one other question near you, I think.

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00:36:17.540 --> 00:36:18.020
<v Carol Johnson>No?

576
00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:19.860
<v Carol Johnson>Okay.

577
00:36:20.120 --> 00:36:20.840
<v Carol Johnson>Sorry?

578
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:23.620
<v Carol Johnson>In that case,

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00:36:23.620 --> 00:36:25.120
<v Carol Johnson>I think the next question was over there.

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00:36:25.220 --> 00:36:25.620
<v Carol Johnson>Thanks.

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00:36:35.160 --> 00:36:38.500
<v Audience>As an early member of WELL

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00:36:38.500 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Audience>here in Adelaide back in the 70s,

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<v Audience>I've certainly seen wonderful advantages

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00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Audience>and advancement for women.

585
00:36:47.540 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Audience>But I have come to the conclusion

586
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:50.060
<v Audience>that women come to wonder

587
00:36:50.060 --> 00:36:51.500
<v Audience>just how,

588
00:36:51.680 --> 00:36:56.140
<v Audience>apart from their own personal benefits

589
00:36:56.140 --> 00:36:57.260
<v Audience>which have come,

590
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.380
<v Audience>how politically aware

591
00:36:59.380 --> 00:37:03.200
<v Audience>the average Australian woman is now.

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<v Audience>I'd like your thoughts, please.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Well, I think,

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<v Sarah Maddison>another thing I wrote recently

595
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:11.560
<v Sarah Maddison>was the gender audit

596
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<v Sarah Maddison>for the Democratic Audit of Australia,

597
00:37:13.660 --> 00:37:16.680
<v Sarah Maddison>which if anyone is interested in a fairly long report

598
00:37:16.680 --> 00:37:19.020
<v Sarah Maddison>on the state of women in Australian democracy,

599
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.160
<v Sarah Maddison>you can find on the Democratic Audit website.

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00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.100
<v Sarah Maddison>And I have to say,

601
00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:27.500
<v Sarah Maddison>it's one of the most depressing pieces of work I've done,

602
00:37:27.660 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Sarah Maddison>even though this book was pretty bad.

603
00:37:29.680 --> 00:37:30.480
<v Sarah Maddison>Because it,

604
00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Sarah Maddison>there is no argument about the fact that

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00:37:36.120 --> 00:37:39.380
<v Sarah Maddison>Australia as a exemplar of gender equality

606
00:37:39.380 --> 00:37:43.060
<v Sarah Maddison>has gone rapidly backwards over the last 10 years.

607
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.900
<v Sarah Maddison>And particularly under attack,

608
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Sarah Maddison>and in fact some of the first NGOs

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00:37:49.200 --> 00:37:50.700
<v Sarah Maddison>defunded by the Howard government

610
00:37:50.700 --> 00:37:52.680
<v Sarah Maddison>were women's non-government organisations.

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00:37:52.980 --> 00:37:53.880
<v Sarah Maddison>Sorry, let me clarify.

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00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.400
<v Sarah Maddison>Feminist non-government organisations

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00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.540
<v Sarah Maddison>who fell instantly out of favour

614
00:37:59.540 --> 00:38:00.820
<v Sarah Maddison>with the Howard government

615
00:38:00.820 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Sarah Maddison>and were,

616
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.520
<v Sarah Maddison>the defunding started in 97.

617
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.600
<v Sarah Maddison>We had a massive round of defunding in 1999.

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00:38:07.780 --> 00:38:13.340
<v Sarah Maddison>We went from around 30 funded women's NGOs to three.

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<v Sarah Maddison>And those were business and professional women's,

620
00:38:17.100 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Sarah Maddison>women's association,

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00:38:19.660 --> 00:38:21.620
<v Sarah Maddison>young women's Christian Association

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00:38:21.620 --> 00:38:24.020
<v Sarah Maddison>and the National Council of Women of Australia,

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00:38:24.180 --> 00:38:28.540
<v Sarah Maddison>which was then headed by a former Liberal Senator from Victoria.

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00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:33.200
<v Sarah Maddison>Gone was the diversity of a representation of women's interests.

625
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Sarah Maddison>Gone were the organisations representing women

626
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.120
<v Sarah Maddison>from culturally and linguistically diverse backgrounds.

627
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.540
<v Sarah Maddison>Gone were organisations representing lesbians,

628
00:38:43.580 --> 00:38:46.040
<v Sarah Maddison>representing Aboriginal women and so on.

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<v Sarah Maddison>Gone were the critical organisations.

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00:38:48.560 --> 00:38:50.660
<v Sarah Maddison>And the effect that that has had

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<v Sarah Maddison>on politicising or depoliticising a generation

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00:38:54.140 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Sarah Maddison>of young Australian women

633
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.400
<v Sarah Maddison>should not be underestimated.

634
00:38:57.700 --> 00:39:01.140
<v Sarah Maddison>The voices articulating a feminist perspective

635
00:39:01.140 --> 00:39:03.400
<v Sarah Maddison>in our public policy debates

636
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.560
<v Sarah Maddison>have been virtually silenced.

637
00:39:06.740 --> 00:39:11.080
<v Sarah Maddison>And it's one of the reasons I still do media for well,

638
00:39:11.140 --> 00:39:12.400
<v Sarah Maddison>as does Eva Cox.

639
00:39:13.580 --> 00:39:15.200
<v Sarah Maddison>I've been doing it for long enough

640
00:39:15.200 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Sarah Maddison>that the media will still call occasionally.

641
00:39:17.780 --> 00:39:19.180
<v Sarah Maddison>They'll only call for, you know,

642
00:39:19.180 --> 00:39:21.900
<v Sarah Maddison>you have to give them the right answer, the feminist line.

643
00:39:22.020 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Sarah Maddison>They don't want any kind of nuance or analysis.

644
00:39:24.120 --> 00:39:26.080
<v Sarah Maddison>They just want a feminist line.

645
00:39:26.720 --> 00:39:28.160
<v Sarah Maddison>But occasionally you think,

646
00:39:28.240 --> 00:39:29.860
<v Sarah Maddison>oh, there's still this glimmer of interest.

647
00:39:29.980 --> 00:39:33.600
<v Sarah Maddison>But we have gone so far backwards.

648
00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:34.700
<v Sarah Maddison>And I have to say,

649
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:36.740
<v Sarah Maddison>South Australia is one of the few states

650
00:39:36.740 --> 00:39:40.560
<v Sarah Maddison>that is doing much in terms of women's machinery of government

651
00:39:40.560 --> 00:39:44.160
<v Sarah Maddison>that has been virtually dismantled everywhere else in the country

652
00:39:44.160 --> 00:39:47.400
<v Sarah Maddison>and utterly and completely at the federal level.

653
00:39:47.500 --> 00:39:48.780
<v Sarah Maddison>And it is to our great shame.

654
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:50.240
<v Sarah Maddison>We used to be a world leader.

655
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.700
<v Sarah Maddison>Our model of women's machinery of government

656
00:39:52.700 --> 00:39:56.080
<v Sarah Maddison>was once held up by the UN as world's best practice

657
00:39:56.080 --> 00:39:58.500
<v Sarah Maddison>and other countries were encouraged to follow our lead.

658
00:39:58.660 --> 00:40:05.000
<v Sarah Maddison>And it is such a damning and disappointing state of affairs

659
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:06.740
<v Sarah Maddison>that we find ourselves in now.

660
00:40:07.240 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Carol Johnson>I'm afraid we only have time for one more question.

661
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.980
<v Carol Johnson>And I think you and the next speaker,

662
00:40:14.020 --> 00:40:14.140
<v Carol Johnson>Eva,

663
00:40:14.160 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Carol Johnson>if you would like to direct me to stand here.

664
00:40:21.340 --> 00:40:24.260
<v Audience>You talk about this whole sort of decline

665
00:40:24.260 --> 00:40:26.820
<v Audience>and the whole silencing of consciousness,

666
00:40:27.080 --> 00:40:28.420
<v Audience>really, of the population.

667
00:40:29.160 --> 00:40:31.140
<v Audience>So we're watching television still.

668
00:40:31.340 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Audience>I mean, us in Australia in the first world,

669
00:40:33.140 --> 00:40:37.760
<v Audience>we see the catastrophes happening around us.

670
00:40:37.860 --> 00:40:39.040
<v Audience>But when we turn on the water,

671
00:40:39.160 --> 00:40:40.020
<v Audience>the water comes on.

672
00:40:40.100 --> 00:40:40.840
<v Audience>When we turn on the lights,

673
00:40:40.900 --> 00:40:41.580
<v Audience>the lights come on.

674
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:43.540
<v Audience>So what is going to be,

675
00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:44.140
<v Audience>as an example,

676
00:40:44.160 --> 00:40:45.300
<v Audience>because as a geophysicist,

677
00:40:45.300 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Audience>I'm used to the signal from the earth.

678
00:40:47.300 --> 00:40:48.780
<v Audience>What is going to be the signal

679
00:40:49.300 --> 00:40:52.480
<v Audience>that is going to put people into a conscious state again,

680
00:40:52.600 --> 00:40:53.840
<v Audience>that's going to radicalise them?

681
00:40:54.700 --> 00:40:57.040
<v Sarah Maddison>I don't think there's going to be one signal.

682
00:40:57.180 --> 00:40:59.680
<v Sarah Maddison>I think that a few people,

683
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.160
<v Sarah Maddison>a few social commentators

684
00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:04.620
<v Sarah Maddison>and people who take the pulse of the Australian population

685
00:41:05.160 --> 00:41:06.500
<v Sarah Maddison>more closely than I do,

686
00:41:06.560 --> 00:41:07.680
<v Sarah Maddison>people like Hugh McKay,

687
00:41:07.680 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Sarah Maddison>have started to say that there's a sense

688
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:14.140
<v Sarah Maddison>that the dragon is starting to wake up.

689
00:41:14.140 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Sarah Maddison>That issues like climate change

690
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:18.500
<v Sarah Maddison>have had people suddenly saying,

691
00:41:18.580 --> 00:41:19.340
<v Sarah Maddison>well, hang on,

692
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Sarah Maddison>the international scientific community

693
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.300
<v Sarah Maddison>is saying this is a reality.

694
00:41:23.500 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Sarah Maddison>Why is my government not doing anything about it?

695
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.460
<v Sarah Maddison>I think the reason that David Hicks' release

696
00:41:29.460 --> 00:41:31.300
<v Sarah Maddison>suddenly came about when it did

697
00:41:31.300 --> 00:41:32.740
<v Sarah Maddison>was because that was another issue

698
00:41:32.740 --> 00:41:34.160
<v Sarah Maddison>that was causing people to say,

699
00:41:34.300 --> 00:41:36.900
<v Sarah Maddison>why is my government not acting

700
00:41:36.900 --> 00:41:40.060
<v Sarah Maddison>on this obvious human rights abuse?

701
00:41:40.700 --> 00:41:43.620
<v Sarah Maddison>I think there are small signs,

702
00:41:43.620 --> 00:41:48.120
<v Sarah Maddison>that people's consciousness is beginning to stir.

703
00:41:48.420 --> 00:41:53.300
<v Sarah Maddison>I very much hope that the recent invasion

704
00:41:53.300 --> 00:41:56.200
<v Sarah Maddison>of the Northern Territory will be another issue.

705
00:41:56.240 --> 00:41:58.560
<v Sarah Maddison>I was very heartened to see that 60%

706
00:41:58.560 --> 00:42:01.260
<v Sarah Maddison>of the Australian population saw that

707
00:42:01.260 --> 00:42:03.120
<v Sarah Maddison>as a blatantly political act.

708
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.300
<v Sarah Maddison>The question is what we do about it.

709
00:42:06.460 --> 00:42:08.680
<v Sarah Maddison>There is no sign yet

710
00:42:08.680 --> 00:42:12.940
<v Sarah Maddison>that is believable to a political scientist anyway

711
00:42:12.940 --> 00:42:14.720
<v Sarah Maddison>that we are going to have a change of government.

712
00:42:17.040 --> 00:42:19.520
<v Sarah Maddison>If we are truly concerned,

713
00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:23.460
<v Sarah Maddison>well, there is no point just being optimistic.

714
00:42:23.860 --> 00:42:25.980
<v Sarah Maddison>Howard needs to lose this next election.

715
00:42:26.560 --> 00:42:29.040
<v Sarah Maddison>Rudd doesn't need to win it.

716
00:42:29.240 --> 00:42:32.900
<v Sarah Maddison>Howard needs to be made to lose the next election.

717
00:42:33.180 --> 00:42:36.140
<v Sarah Maddison>That can only come by the Australian voting public

718
00:42:36.140 --> 00:42:38.220
<v Sarah Maddison>truly holding him to account.

719
00:42:38.460 --> 00:42:41.380
<v Sarah Maddison>If you want my answer for which way to the future,

720
00:42:41.560 --> 00:42:42.920
<v Sarah Maddison>that would be a bloody good idea.

721
00:42:42.940 --> 00:42:46.260
<v Sarah Maddison>It certainly won't see us home in hose.

722
00:42:52.140 --> 00:42:56.020
<v Carol Johnson>On that note, we need to finish this session.

723
00:42:56.620 --> 00:43:01.820
<v Carol Johnson>I think Sarah has given a really fantastic talk today.

724
00:43:01.860 --> 00:43:05.060
<v Carol Johnson>I'm sorry that some people missed out on asking questions

725
00:43:05.060 --> 00:43:08.660
<v Carol Johnson>because obviously Sarah had been addressing issues

726
00:43:08.660 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Carol Johnson>that are very important to all of us.

727
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:15.160
<v Carol Johnson>And perhaps we could even thank her briefly again for her talk.

