WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.960 It's my, I have many honours tonight, it's my honour now to bring out onto the stage 2 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:15.420 my co-curators, Isabel Marshall and Kirsty Parker, and the Honourable Catherine Branson, 3 00:00:15.540 --> 00:00:23.540 Chancellor of the University of Adelaide. And I guess, also welcome myself to the stage, 4 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:31.140 because I hadn't thought that peep through. We are just going to have a conversation about 5 00:00:31.700 --> 00:00:37.980 thinking through the Festival of Ideas and how we approached it this year before leading 6 00:00:37.980 --> 00:00:38.760 into venturing. 7 00:00:45.980 --> 00:00:52.400 Thank you, John, and thank you for your welcome. And thanks to Robert Taylor from Kumakaru for 8 00:00:52.400 --> 00:00:53.520 his welcome to come on. 9 00:00:54.400 --> 00:01:01.000 I'm delighted to be here this afternoon for the opening of the night, the opening night 10 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:08.440 of the 2021 Festival of Ideas, the first to be hosted by the University of Adelaide. It 11 00:01:08.440 --> 00:01:13.100 is, I think, a really exciting Festival and exciting time to be here, albeit a rather 12 00:01:13.100 --> 00:01:18.900 bitter afternoon. I'm looking forward very much to tonight's opening address by Ben Shuru, 13 00:01:19.620 --> 00:01:23.500 Making Friends of Enemies on the Possibilities of Fortress. 14 00:01:25.580 --> 00:01:33.860 And last but not least, I am rev 15 00:01:47.980 --> 00:01:53.020 Of course, this year's Festival of Ideas focuses on a whole range of issues, 16 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:58.520 themes as diverse as social enterprise, body image, food sustainability, 17 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:04.220 artificial intelligence, taking positives from the impact of COVID-19. 18 00:02:04.960 --> 00:02:07.840 But particularly from your perspective, I think important issues 19 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:11.520 about the wider relations with Australia's First Peoples. 20 00:02:11.580 --> 00:02:14.000 So we're looking at racism and sport. 21 00:02:14.340 --> 00:02:17.620 The Uluru Statement from the Heart will also be explored. 22 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:23.420 So Kirsty, as a former journalist, a former co-chair of the National Congress 23 00:02:23.420 --> 00:02:27.460 of Australia's First Peoples, now the Director of Aboriginal Affairs 24 00:02:27.460 --> 00:02:30.100 and Reconciliation within the South Australian Government 25 00:02:30.100 --> 00:02:35.680 and a Director of Reconciliation Australia, I'm interested in what concepts 26 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:40.960 you wanted to examine and what inspired you to bring those concepts to this program. 27 00:02:41.780 --> 00:02:43.160 Thank you very much, Cathy. 28 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:47.640 And can I also join everyone in thanking Robert for his, 29 00:02:47.980 --> 00:02:49.620 very gracious welcome to country. 30 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.180 As a UALY-Yina from Northwestern New South Wales, I feel very blessed 31 00:02:53.180 --> 00:02:56.500 to be living and working on Karni Yerta. 32 00:02:58.640 --> 00:03:05.720 The questions that I hoped might be prosecuted and interrogated 33 00:03:05.720 --> 00:03:10.520 in the Festival are questions that generally have consumed me 34 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:12.860 throughout my, I guess my working career. 35 00:03:13.180 --> 00:03:16.000 And they really revolve around 36 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.960 how we as a country have been able to 37 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:19.540 make sure that we are not left behind. 38 00:03:19.540 --> 00:03:20.880 How do we make sure that no one is left behind? 39 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:35.020 And how do we, how do we persuade Australians to know 40 00:03:35.020 --> 00:03:40.180 that looking out for other people doesn't mean that they have 41 00:03:40.180 --> 00:03:44.680 to sacrifice anything, that by making sure that everyone is okay, 42 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:47.780 and I think that's a very beautiful, broad theme. 43 00:03:47.860 --> 00:03:47.940 I think that's a very beautiful, broad theme. 44 00:03:47.940 --> 00:03:52.460 when I think of the Festival, that there is no loss 45 00:03:52.460 --> 00:03:58.580 and that it actually enriches all of us if everyone is in good shape, 46 00:03:58.700 --> 00:04:01.800 not just the shape that we've come to believe 47 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:03.120 that they will always be in. 48 00:04:03.440 --> 00:04:05.520 And, you know, I can use the example of Aboriginal 49 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:07.040 and Torres Strait Islander people. 50 00:04:07.180 --> 00:04:11.420 For so long, we've been saying that our people generally are 51 00:04:11.420 --> 00:04:15.400 on the lowest rung of every social indicator. 52 00:04:15.740 --> 00:04:16.880 It's not a contest. 53 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:17.920 It's not a contest. 54 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.320 The answer is not that someone has to be on the bottom of the rung, 55 00:04:20.420 --> 00:04:22.980 but all of us have to be up to a point 56 00:04:22.980 --> 00:04:25.220 where we're living happy, healthy and safe lives. 57 00:04:25.420 --> 00:04:28.960 So I guess the questions that I want to ask 58 00:04:28.960 --> 00:04:33.940 is how do we make sure there is inclusion and we are all well 59 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:36.560 and we all retain our dignity? 60 00:04:37.580 --> 00:04:38.400 Thanks, Kirsty. 61 00:04:38.520 --> 00:04:41.220 It's clear, I think, that if we're well together, 62 00:04:41.500 --> 00:04:42.720 if we're strong together, 63 00:04:43.180 --> 00:04:46.460 then the whole community will be so much stronger for that. 64 00:04:46.460 --> 00:04:48.040 It's an important perspective, I think. 65 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:52.280 John, you work across the sciences and the humanities. 66 00:04:52.660 --> 00:04:55.800 You're a professor of anthropology at the University of Adelaide, 67 00:04:55.880 --> 00:04:58.120 head of humanities at the museum. 68 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.560 You've had extensive experience 69 00:05:01.220 --> 00:05:04.140 working with Aboriginal artists and custodians. 70 00:05:04.380 --> 00:05:07.600 What ideas do you want to bring to this Festival of Ideas? 71 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:10.540 I think... 72 00:05:10.540 --> 00:05:12.600 I mean, obviously I have a great passion 73 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.880 for social justice 74 00:05:15.880 --> 00:05:16.440 and for the people of Adelaide. 75 00:05:16.440 --> 00:05:18.940 And particularly in relationship to Aboriginal affairs 76 00:05:18.940 --> 00:05:20.260 and the history of Australia. 77 00:05:20.460 --> 00:05:23.680 There's no secret to anyone who knows me there. 78 00:05:23.860 --> 00:05:25.000 But I think that... 79 00:05:25.540 --> 00:05:27.580 And there's a really strong representation 80 00:05:27.580 --> 00:05:29.380 of those questions in the program 81 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:31.880 that I'm really excited about. 82 00:05:33.660 --> 00:05:37.640 But the thing that really struck us when we came together to... 83 00:05:37.640 --> 00:05:40.540 None of us have curated a Festival of Ideas before, you know? 84 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:42.460 So it was like, well, how do you do that? 85 00:05:42.880 --> 00:05:45.140 Greg Mackie's here. He knows how to do it. 86 00:05:45.220 --> 00:05:46.420 But, you know, he passed... 87 00:05:46.440 --> 00:05:47.500 He passed on the torch this year. 88 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:48.040 Thanks, Greg. 89 00:05:51.460 --> 00:05:55.320 But what struck us, each of us in different ways, 90 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:57.540 was that sense that... 91 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.840 Everyone was talking about the pandemic and COVID and, you know... 92 00:06:02.380 --> 00:06:05.520 And we'll be talking about it tomorrow morning again, I'm sure. 93 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:11.080 But what really struck me last year and over the last 12 months 94 00:06:11.080 --> 00:06:15.260 was a sense that the pandemic was one idea, one issue. 95 00:06:15.540 --> 00:06:16.420 But whatever. 96 00:06:16.440 --> 00:06:17.020 And I think that's what it actually did, 97 00:06:17.060 --> 00:06:19.600 was throw into relief a whole lot of other issues 98 00:06:20.200 --> 00:06:23.620 bubbling away in the underbelly of our community and our society 99 00:06:23.620 --> 00:06:26.580 that either hadn't had enough oxygen 100 00:06:26.580 --> 00:06:31.200 or hadn't had enough leverage or attention. 101 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:34.800 And I just feel like you look back at last year, 102 00:06:34.840 --> 00:06:36.200 and people will talk about COVID, 103 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.780 but you look at what happened with Black Lives Matter 104 00:06:39.780 --> 00:06:41.800 and you look at what happened with Trump 105 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:45.700 and this agenda around fake news and information. 106 00:06:45.740 --> 00:06:46.420 You look at... 107 00:06:46.420 --> 00:06:50.440 You look at the really extraordinary... 108 00:06:51.380 --> 00:06:52.380 And it's not just the acts, 109 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:56.500 but the revelation of a history of acts of sexism 110 00:06:56.500 --> 00:06:58.700 and the abuse of power within Australian Parliament 111 00:06:58.700 --> 00:07:05.440 and of a kind of toxic masculinity that pervades our society as well. 112 00:07:05.640 --> 00:07:07.280 These are big ideas. 113 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.460 Like, these are bubbling away at the heart of our community 114 00:07:10.460 --> 00:07:11.960 and have been forever. 115 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:16.340 And COVID seemed to turn over those rocks, 116 00:07:16.420 --> 00:07:19.780 in a really interesting and concentrated way. 117 00:07:19.940 --> 00:07:23.740 And it felt like the festival ideas, 118 00:07:23.820 --> 00:07:25.000 what value it had, 119 00:07:25.100 --> 00:07:26.580 is not just to throw up ideas, 120 00:07:26.740 --> 00:07:32.620 but to throw up the idea of checking in on our ideas, 121 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:38.700 checking in on ideas as not abstractions, 122 00:07:39.260 --> 00:07:43.340 but as things that can change the world. 123 00:07:43.420 --> 00:07:45.860 They can also kill you. 124 00:07:45.900 --> 00:07:46.400 They can... 125 00:07:46.400 --> 00:07:48.720 They're agents in the world. 126 00:07:49.020 --> 00:07:52.000 The way sound is a physical thing, it's a vibration. 127 00:07:52.580 --> 00:07:56.060 I think ideas are physical things that can transform the world 128 00:07:56.060 --> 00:07:57.720 in positive and negative ways. 129 00:07:57.860 --> 00:08:01.380 And we need to take agency in thinking about our ideas 130 00:08:01.380 --> 00:08:02.220 and owning them, 131 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:05.740 particularly the ones we don't know that we're influenced by. 132 00:08:06.340 --> 00:08:08.960 And I think COVID gave us a chance to think about 133 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:12.480 the composition of our ideas and our society 134 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.960 in a way that we really wanted to open up 135 00:08:15.960 --> 00:08:16.380 with the first time. 136 00:08:16.380 --> 00:08:17.820 And I think we have to take that back. 137 00:08:17.820 --> 00:08:18.200 Thanks, John. 138 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.160 I think there might be an element of that 139 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.360 that I was reading recently 140 00:08:23.640 --> 00:08:27.600 where a First Nations writer said, 141 00:08:29.020 --> 00:08:31.780 mainstream society has a long time invited us 142 00:08:31.780 --> 00:08:33.040 to come and sit with them 143 00:08:33.860 --> 00:08:35.480 and learn to better understand 144 00:08:36.060 --> 00:08:37.940 how the broader community works. 145 00:08:38.560 --> 00:08:40.740 Maybe it's time for you to come and sit with us. 146 00:08:41.920 --> 00:08:45.400 I think there are women who are saying to men in the community, 147 00:08:45.400 --> 00:08:48.240 well, we've worked in your space for a long time. 148 00:08:48.340 --> 00:08:52.600 Why don't you come and experience what it's like in our space? 149 00:08:52.880 --> 00:08:55.280 I think these are parts of developing the understanding 150 00:08:55.280 --> 00:08:56.960 that you're speaking about, John, I think. 151 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:58.040 Absolutely, yeah. 152 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.340 Now, Isabel, you're on leave, I know, 153 00:09:01.380 --> 00:09:03.720 from your medical studies at the University of Adelaide 154 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.700 for this important year when you have things to do, 155 00:09:06.820 --> 00:09:08.500 including carrying the responsibility 156 00:09:08.500 --> 00:09:11.120 of being the Young Australian of the Year. 157 00:09:12.760 --> 00:09:15.240 And you've shown us what can be achieved, 158 00:09:15.400 --> 00:09:17.840 by working in the social enterprise area 159 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:21.360 through founding with a co-founder, the enterprise, Taboo. 160 00:09:21.680 --> 00:09:26.660 What ideas inspired you to agree to be a co-curator of this festival? 161 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:31.340 Yeah, I think when I was first invited, I received the email. 162 00:09:31.740 --> 00:09:35.200 And I didn't really know what it was really all about. 163 00:09:35.860 --> 00:09:39.780 But I really loved the idea of this festival of ideas. 164 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:45.020 And I loved that the guys behind it, 165 00:09:45.060 --> 00:09:45.380 the people behind it, the people behind it, 166 00:09:45.400 --> 00:09:46.280 the people organising it, 167 00:09:46.860 --> 00:09:50.220 were prioritising having a young voice there as well. 168 00:09:51.460 --> 00:09:54.680 And I have quite selfishly accepted, 169 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:57.520 because I'm very aware at the moment, 170 00:09:57.580 --> 00:10:01.400 having only been out of school for five years now, 171 00:10:02.220 --> 00:10:06.100 that I haven't been exposed to a lot of these world issues 172 00:10:06.100 --> 00:10:08.360 and these concepts that are bubbling away, 173 00:10:08.540 --> 00:10:12.900 as John described, that have been for decades and decades. 174 00:10:12.980 --> 00:10:14.640 I've only seen a fraction of all that, 175 00:10:14.660 --> 00:10:15.380 and experienced it. 176 00:10:15.380 --> 00:10:16.140 And I've seen a fraction of it all. 177 00:10:16.280 --> 00:10:20.280 But I can recognise how important it is for me to learn about them 178 00:10:21.220 --> 00:10:23.020 from reliable sources. 179 00:10:23.500 --> 00:10:27.120 And I'm from a generation where we get all that information 180 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.060 from social media, and it's relentless. 181 00:10:29.300 --> 00:10:31.540 And you scroll through your feed, 182 00:10:31.580 --> 00:10:36.440 and you have 0.5 of a second to be engaged and to learn something. 183 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.380 But I could see the real benefit of a festival like this 184 00:10:41.380 --> 00:10:45.000 that had someone up the front describing their story, 185 00:10:45.380 --> 00:10:49.900 a story that addresses issues that are wider spread, 186 00:10:50.140 --> 00:10:52.940 that are deeper, that cover layers of our society, 187 00:10:53.100 --> 00:10:55.160 that lots of people have experienced, 188 00:10:55.300 --> 00:10:57.200 but perhaps I haven't experienced as much. 189 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:01.920 And I saw the benefit for myself in learning in that environment, 190 00:11:02.640 --> 00:11:04.920 but also learning from, 191 00:11:05.140 --> 00:11:08.500 or also hopefully flagging the issues 192 00:11:08.500 --> 00:11:12.320 that I think our younger generation is concerned about, 193 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:15.240 and perhaps issues that the older generation 194 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:15.360 is concerned about. 195 00:11:15.380 --> 00:11:15.580 And I think that's something that I think our younger generations 196 00:11:15.580 --> 00:11:16.880 should reconsider. 197 00:11:17.560 --> 00:11:19.680 Because I can see there's so many gaps in my knowledge, 198 00:11:19.860 --> 00:11:23.500 but likewise, lots of people who have been alive longer 199 00:11:23.500 --> 00:11:25.900 and have thought processes that are embedded 200 00:11:25.900 --> 00:11:29.080 and haven't been questioned or challenged also need to be challenged. 201 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:29.800 Why are you looking at me? 202 00:11:34.020 --> 00:11:34.920 It's the sweater. 203 00:11:36.700 --> 00:11:41.960 It's becoming a real festival meme, this cardigan. 204 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:43.940 I think a really important part... 205 00:11:43.940 --> 00:11:44.680 Can I just say something? 206 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:44.940 Please do. 207 00:11:45.020 --> 00:11:45.240 Just in response. 208 00:11:45.380 --> 00:11:45.620 I think I can answer that, 209 00:11:45.680 --> 00:11:49.660 because I know Kirsty and I spoke about this a lot during the curation, 210 00:11:49.780 --> 00:11:54.700 was you end up in an echo chamber of the people who share your values, 211 00:11:54.940 --> 00:11:56.780 the people that you follow on social media. 212 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:59.860 They tend to tell you the things you already know 213 00:11:59.860 --> 00:12:01.280 or the values that you already have. 214 00:12:01.380 --> 00:12:04.380 It was just incredibly humbling, 215 00:12:04.940 --> 00:12:07.360 and it was a really eye-opening thing 216 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:09.860 to curate something with a young person, 217 00:12:11.500 --> 00:12:14.100 because there were ideas that we didn't know. 218 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:14.740 There were... 219 00:12:14.740 --> 00:12:17.600 There was language that we weren't familiar with, 220 00:12:19.060 --> 00:12:22.740 trends in thinking that we didn't have a handle on. 221 00:12:22.820 --> 00:12:26.180 It's so dangerous to just be talking to the people you know. 222 00:12:26.520 --> 00:12:29.660 That's what happens on Twitter in America. 223 00:12:29.820 --> 00:12:32.380 You follow all the people who believe one thing, 224 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.880 and you end up believing that the election was stolen. 225 00:12:35.400 --> 00:12:37.780 That's a really dangerous idea. 226 00:12:38.260 --> 00:12:40.920 There's so many hidden agendas behind it all, 227 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:43.320 that these algorithms are made to benefit companies 228 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:44.720 that are trying to market to it. 229 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:44.820 They're trying to sell it to you. 230 00:12:45.380 --> 00:12:45.820 There's... 231 00:12:45.820 --> 00:12:47.700 Like, you don't know what to trust anymore. 232 00:12:47.920 --> 00:12:49.080 So that's why I like... 233 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:51.520 Maybe I'm just an old-fashioned kind of young person, 234 00:12:51.660 --> 00:12:55.200 but I like the concept of someone standing up the front 235 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:58.100 and sharing their story in a really genuine and honest way. 236 00:12:58.500 --> 00:13:00.000 You'll be in cardigans in no time. 237 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:00.280 Yeah. 238 00:13:01.160 --> 00:13:02.100 But I think that... 239 00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:03.160 Like, that's part of this. 240 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:04.020 I think putting... 241 00:13:04.020 --> 00:13:04.740 And turning up. 242 00:13:04.800 --> 00:13:08.120 Thank you for coming through the storms to turn up. 243 00:13:08.160 --> 00:13:09.940 To put yourself in the way of ideas 244 00:13:09.940 --> 00:13:12.660 that maybe you don't hear every day 245 00:13:12.660 --> 00:13:14.260 or you don't get a chance to... 246 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.240 to hear teased out properly. 247 00:13:16.580 --> 00:13:18.740 I think, like, just curating this festival 248 00:13:19.380 --> 00:13:22.060 reminded us of the value of talking to people 249 00:13:22.700 --> 00:13:25.440 outside your own network, you know? 250 00:13:25.640 --> 00:13:26.020 Great. 251 00:13:26.700 --> 00:13:29.420 Thanks to all three of you for those introductory words. 252 00:13:29.640 --> 00:13:31.480 Now I want to put you a bit on the spot 253 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.160 and ask you of the wonderful program that we have for the festival. 254 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:38.640 What are the things that you are most determined that you will get to? 255 00:13:38.700 --> 00:13:41.780 The things that you individually really don't want to miss? 256 00:13:42.580 --> 00:13:44.080 Isabel, we might go the other way round. 257 00:13:44.220 --> 00:13:44.700 How about you? 258 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:44.900 You can start. 259 00:13:45.040 --> 00:13:45.440 Sure. 260 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:50.160 I'm particularly excited for a session called True Selfie 261 00:13:50.160 --> 00:13:52.960 with Taryn Brumfitt and Clementine Ford 262 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:55.280 and a few other amazing panellists as well. 263 00:13:55.500 --> 00:13:59.860 And we've talked a little bit about how different ideas 264 00:13:59.860 --> 00:14:03.340 can form our perceptions of the outside world, 265 00:14:03.500 --> 00:14:05.200 but I think this is kind of going the other way. 266 00:14:05.300 --> 00:14:09.800 It's how this outside world and all the issues that are within that, 267 00:14:09.900 --> 00:14:11.360 especially in the digital world, 268 00:14:11.500 --> 00:14:13.680 can impact the way we perceive ourselves. 269 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.400 And often quite negative lights. 270 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:19.660 So they're going to talk about navigating self-perception 271 00:14:19.660 --> 00:14:22.860 and self-confidence in the social media age, 272 00:14:23.660 --> 00:14:24.980 which I'm really excited about. 273 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:28.460 I'm also very excited about voice-treated truth 274 00:14:28.460 --> 00:14:31.240 and also fair game. 275 00:14:31.380 --> 00:14:33.200 I'm particularly excited about fair game. 276 00:14:33.280 --> 00:14:35.260 That's exploring racism in sport. 277 00:14:36.140 --> 00:14:39.080 And I think these guys have also opened my eyes 278 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:43.800 to the fact that I know I am a white young woman. 279 00:14:43.920 --> 00:14:44.700 I know. 280 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:48.640 And that's not enough. 281 00:14:48.940 --> 00:14:50.220 I need to learn more. 282 00:14:50.500 --> 00:14:54.260 And I'm really keen to do that through this festival. 283 00:14:54.340 --> 00:14:58.120 And, yeah, I've just been inspired to over the last few months. 284 00:14:58.580 --> 00:14:59.480 Thanks, Isabel. 285 00:14:59.540 --> 00:14:59.740 John? 286 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:04.120 Well, Isabel just stole all my favourite sessions, 287 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:05.500 so it's difficult. 288 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:06.720 I'm... 289 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:09.520 I guess in the same spirit, 290 00:15:09.580 --> 00:15:11.880 I'm really interested in going to sessions 291 00:15:11.880 --> 00:15:14.320 that don't reinforce what I already know. 292 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:16.980 But trying to put myself in the way of some things 293 00:15:16.980 --> 00:15:20.500 and some people and voices that I maybe don't hear every day. 294 00:15:21.180 --> 00:15:24.260 And there's a session on Sunday morning, 295 00:15:24.340 --> 00:15:26.240 I think, Are We All In This Together?, 296 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:29.220 which actually came out of a beautiful idea. 297 00:15:30.220 --> 00:15:31.240 It was your idea, actually, 298 00:15:31.280 --> 00:15:35.300 during the curation of... 299 00:15:37.760 --> 00:15:41.520 ..the people whose voices we don't hear in Adelaide. 300 00:15:41.700 --> 00:15:44.320 And that was looking at homelessness, 301 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:49.660 and it was looking at people who are on the margins of our society, 302 00:15:50.680 --> 00:15:54.560 but on the margins of the communicative power that we all hold. 303 00:15:55.520 --> 00:16:00.420 And how they would speak into a festival of ideas like this. 304 00:16:00.540 --> 00:16:01.060 What... 305 00:16:02.340 --> 00:16:04.560 How do you open a forum like this 306 00:16:04.560 --> 00:16:08.400 for people who don't necessarily even feel comfortable speaking into it? 307 00:16:08.500 --> 00:16:09.140 I mean, there was... 308 00:16:09.140 --> 00:16:12.820 It might even be worth sharing the story that provoked that for you. 309 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:14.100 Yeah, I think the important... 310 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:15.880 The most important part of that session 311 00:16:15.880 --> 00:16:19.240 is it's not someone who's used to being up on a stage 312 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.820 explaining stats and stories about other people 313 00:16:22.820 --> 00:16:25.480 who have experienced homelessness or domestic violence. 314 00:16:25.700 --> 00:16:28.420 And it's about those people telling their story. 315 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:29.660 And I think that... 316 00:16:29.660 --> 00:16:35.040 I just met a really eloquent and inspiring homeless man, 317 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:36.960 and we had the best discussion ever. 318 00:16:37.060 --> 00:16:38.400 And I just remember thinking, 319 00:16:38.680 --> 00:16:39.800 you deserve a stage. 320 00:16:39.880 --> 00:16:41.660 You just deserve to tell your story. 321 00:16:42.060 --> 00:16:43.980 You have people inspired. 322 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.120 And it's not fair to hold them away from that. 323 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.220 So, yeah, that was kind of where I came from. 324 00:16:49.300 --> 00:16:52.920 And then Sarah Gunn, who has GoGo events 325 00:16:52.920 --> 00:16:54.640 and works with a lot of people 326 00:16:54.640 --> 00:16:57.220 who would be absolutely incredible for this role. 327 00:16:57.400 --> 00:17:00.060 She's getting a group of people together to... 328 00:17:00.060 --> 00:17:04.420 and has workshopped telling their story over months, I believe. 329 00:17:04.860 --> 00:17:08.560 And they'll be on stage being very raw and honest. 330 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:12.260 And we'll, yeah, be able to learn so much from that. 331 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:13.720 Kirsty? 332 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:17.060 This is terrible because both Isabel and John 333 00:17:17.060 --> 00:17:18.800 have stolen some of my thunder. 334 00:17:20.320 --> 00:17:21.760 And it's actually really hard. 335 00:17:21.840 --> 00:17:24.620 I was talking to Izzy in the corridor out there 336 00:17:24.620 --> 00:17:25.080 and we were saying, 337 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:27.120 so what's been your favourite session? 338 00:17:27.280 --> 00:17:29.680 And Izzy said, this, 339 00:17:29.820 --> 00:17:31.460 And I said, so basically the whole program 340 00:17:31.460 --> 00:17:34.580 because it is so difficult to choose. 341 00:17:34.600 --> 00:17:37.740 So I'm probably not going home from start to finish. 342 00:17:38.840 --> 00:17:40.700 It probably won't come as a surprise 343 00:17:40.700 --> 00:17:42.540 when I say that Voice Treaty Truth 344 00:17:42.540 --> 00:17:43.180 is... 345 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:45.940 is one that I'm looking forward to. 346 00:17:46.020 --> 00:17:47.920 Not only because I have the privilege 347 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:49.840 of facilitating or chairing it, 348 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:51.660 but also because I'm a signatory 349 00:17:51.660 --> 00:17:53.600 to the Uluru Statement from the heart itself. 350 00:17:54.580 --> 00:17:57.740 And also the kind of sub-theme, 351 00:17:57.980 --> 00:18:02.160 which was the NAIDOC week theme a couple of years ago, 352 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:03.220 Voice Treaty Truth, 353 00:18:03.500 --> 00:18:05.480 which really talks about the aspirations 354 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:06.800 in the Uluru Statement, 355 00:18:06.860 --> 00:18:10.100 which some people might think was aimed at governments 356 00:18:10.100 --> 00:18:12.960 and trying to, you know, raise a fist to governments 357 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:14.320 and say, you've got to listen to us. 358 00:18:14.320 --> 00:18:17.440 But actually it was an overture to all Australians 359 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:18.780 and an invitation. 360 00:18:19.740 --> 00:18:24.340 And I love the generosity that is contained in that approach. 361 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.480 And we're also obviously going to hear 362 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:27.880 from Professor Megan Davis, 363 00:18:28.060 --> 00:18:33.000 who is just an absolute star and a wonderful human being. 364 00:18:33.740 --> 00:18:37.220 Sammy Uluru-Wilson, Aaron Hazelbane, 365 00:18:37.360 --> 00:18:39.440 a terrific young South Australian Aboriginal man, 366 00:18:39.580 --> 00:18:43.140 and also Sally Scales, who many people will know from APY. 367 00:18:44.320 --> 00:18:47.620 But, you know, the sessions around, you know, 368 00:18:47.620 --> 00:18:49.800 that talk about how to nurture yourself, 369 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:52.380 how to exist in the world but still be safe, 370 00:18:52.500 --> 00:18:54.080 you know, true selfie. 371 00:18:54.820 --> 00:18:56.100 Are we all in this together? 372 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:58.060 Again, you know, hearing the voices 373 00:18:58.060 --> 00:18:59.820 that we haven't consistently heard. 374 00:19:00.080 --> 00:19:01.900 And, you know, as an Aboriginal person, 375 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:05.460 we're generally used to people talking for us, 376 00:19:05.520 --> 00:19:07.640 so I really appreciate, you know, 377 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:09.160 the opportunity to hear from people 378 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:11.380 who may never otherwise have their voices heard. 379 00:19:11.560 --> 00:19:12.760 But basically everything. 380 00:19:12.940 --> 00:19:13.920 It's all about Tukka. 381 00:19:14.320 --> 00:19:18.300 You know, it's all about gratitude and generosity and giving. 382 00:19:18.600 --> 00:19:23.140 And I think these are the sorts of conversations we've got to have 383 00:19:23.140 --> 00:19:27.000 in order for us to be able to live up to what we've said for decades, 384 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.280 and that is Australians are fair and decent people 385 00:19:29.280 --> 00:19:31.500 and care about others and are welcoming. 386 00:19:31.740 --> 00:19:35.060 So these sorts of conversations in all the sessions, I think, 387 00:19:35.580 --> 00:19:38.860 throughout the festival are going to help us arrive 388 00:19:38.860 --> 00:19:42.420 at being what it is that we want to be. 389 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:44.180 Thanks very much, Kersley. 390 00:19:44.320 --> 00:19:46.180 Sadly, we must move on. 391 00:19:46.320 --> 00:19:49.960 But before we do, let me thank each of you, Isabelle, Kersley, John, 392 00:19:50.140 --> 00:19:53.300 for creating this fantastic and interesting program. 393 00:19:53.500 --> 00:19:55.140 I think it's going to be great. 394 00:19:56.780 --> 00:19:59.440 Of course, the festival is, of course, a perfect fit 395 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:02.900 for the University of Adelaide, and we're delighted to be involved 396 00:20:02.900 --> 00:20:04.660 in this year's festival. 397 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:08.200 It aligns with our goals of being connected to the world, 398 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.980 of being a magnet for talent to our university and to the city. 399 00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:14.300 And being at the heart of the festival, 400 00:20:14.300 --> 00:20:18.200 being a part of the city's cultural and artistic life. 401 00:20:19.220 --> 00:20:22.220